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Issue 455
INTERNATIONAL AMMUNITION ASSOCIATION, INC.
Journal May/June, 2007
IAA Journal
Official Publication of The International Ammunition Association, Inc.
In This Issue: From the President .................................................................................... 3 WRACo 303 Service Cartridges, Brian Oldfield ...................................... 4 Book Review: 20mm Suomessa (Pitkaenen/Simpanen) .......................... 7 From the Editor ........................................................................................ 7 In Other Publications ............................................................................... 8 Swiss Chargers, Harrie Telkamp ............................................................... 9 .300 Target Cartridge, John Pople-Crump ............................................... 10 Patents & Trademarks, John Kuntz ....................................................... 13 Budd/Petmecky Bore Cleaner ................................................................ 14 Holecek Cartridges, Vít Krcma .............................................................. 18 Company Histories (Hamilton Watch Co.), George Kass ........................ 20 Polte 9mm Pb Iron Core (mE) Bullets, Lew Curtis ................................ 22 USCCo Headstamps, Gary Muckel ........................................................ 26 The Better Half, Paul Smith ..................................................................... 27 Coming Events ........................................................................................ 29 Disposing of Collections, Will Adye-White ............................................ 30 .450 Roumanian ....................................................................................... 34 Schlesinger & Wells, 1854 ...................................................................... 36 Romanian Headstamps - Addendum 3, Liviu Stoica ............................ 39 S-Ball Plastik Czech Shotgun Slugs, Vít Krcma ..................................... 40 Cartridge Prices (US CF Rifle) .............................................................. 42 Benchrest Cartridge Old/New, Ray Meketa ............................................ 44 New members ........................................................................................... 45 Letters to the Editor ................................................................................ 46 Black Mesa Ammunition ........................................................................ 52 Advertisements ......................................................................................... 55 Headstamps, Otto Witt ............................................................................ 59 Front Cover: Swiss chargers courtesy of Harrie Telkamp. See page 9. Change of address: Please allow a minimum of two weeks notice on all address changes. Send old address as well as new address to IAA Membership, 6531 Carlsbad Dr., Lincoln, NE 68510,, U.S.A. Postmaster: send address changes to IAA at above address.
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IAA ADMINISTRATION
From The President
President: Lewis Curtis, PO Box 133193, Atlanta, Georgia 30333, USA, Tel/Fax: 404-248-9468 Email:
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This is the awkward message that I write before SLICS and you read after SLICS. At the IAA Membership Meeting in St Louis, I will share my thoughts on the state of the IAA today and how I see the future. I am writing this before the Board Meeting at SLICS where some of the issues below will be voted on and approved as written, disapproved or changed, so this is only a snapshot. The next From the President will give you the decisions of the Board. First, membership! Our membership has only increased by 100 from Jan 2003 to Jan 2007. We are growing but very slowly. About half of all new members join through the website. Just over 80% of our dues paying members are in the US, with about 7% in Canada and the remaining 13% overseas. Financially we are healthy with slightly over $10K profit last year, but about 40% of that was in donations, so our basic profitability continues to decline as the expense of the Journal increases due to improvements and postal increases. We estimate we will loose a small amount in 2007 because it is time to reprint the Guide we give new members. We expect to break even in 2008 and probably loose money in 2009 and beyond, partially driven in expected increases in the printing costs in 2008 and the postage increase announced for mid-2007. Because of these cost increases, I’m recommending to the Board that we increase IAA dues to $35/ year for US members and $40 & $55 a year for Canadian and overseas members respectively beginning in 2008. This is the first dues increase since 1999, and these increases should carry us for another 10 years without another dues increase. Those who have already paid more than one year ahead will not be effected by the increase until it is time to renew again. Our Vice President and Editor, Chris Punnett has discovered a way to create an electronic copy of the IAA Journal that is compact enough to distribute electronically. I believe this is a major breakthrough, and will recom-
Executive Vice President: Chris Punnett, 996248 RR#1, Mansfield, Ont L0N 1M0, Canada, Voice: 705-4353527, Fax: 705-435-0892. Secretary: John L. Moss, 1033 Gilman Drive, Colma, CA 94015, USA, Voice: 650-992-2829.
Treasurer: John F. Scott, 3027 Hilltop Drive, Murrysville, PA 15668, USA, Voice: 724-327-5565.
Directors: Will Adye-White, 15 Core Cres., Brampton, ON L6W 2G6, Canada Pepper Burruss, 4199 Willow Brook Rd., De Pere, WI 54115, USA Jon Cohen, 273 Beacon Dr., Phoenixville, PA 19460, USA. Gene Whitehead, 2425 N. Wheeler Ave., Grand Island, NE 68801, USA.
Membership Chairman: Gary Muckel, 6531 Carlsbad Dr., Lincoln, NE 68510, U.S.A. Tel: 402-483-2484 Email:
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European Representative: Martin Golland, Chapel House, Deepdale, Barton-on-Humber, N. Lincs DN18 6ED, UK
Research Chairman: Paul Smith, 4301-42B Ave., Leduc, AB T9E 4R6, Canada. Tel: 780-986-9631 Email:
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Back Issues: Dennis Trump, 5032 Grave Run Road, Lineboro, MD 21102. U.S.A. Email:
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mend to the Board that we test the eJournal this year and offer the option of receiving an e-Journal instead of a printed Journal in 2008. The paper Journal will continue to be available to members who want it like me. The recommendation is that e-Journal membership would be $25/year worldwide, and could offset the impact of the dues changes for many overseas members, and make IAA membership more attractive to new overseas members. More on the e-Journal later. Both our Journal and our website are wonderful. Hats off to Chris Punnett and our webmaster, John Spangler and his team who have done yeoman work combating SPAM on the Forum, and have implemented an excellent new Forum that is very SPAM resistant. We continue to need your support in both areas. Keep the quality material coming in for the Journal, and we continue to need introductory material on collecting specialties for the Web. In addition, give the Forum a try. It is working great, and registration is simple, requiring only your username (which you make up), your email address and a password which you also make up. Everything else is optional. We still need people with web site/ internet skills to help us grow and evolve the web site which is our face to non-members and a major recruiting tool, particularly for the younger collectors. If you have these skills and are willing to help, please get in contact with me. Finally, there will be an election for officers this year. I urge anyone who is interested in holding office to volunteer. Having someone else win the office of President would not hurt my feelings. The Nominating committee will soon be looking for nominees. I will report to you in the next issue on the results of the board meeting, but wanted to share with you the material I will be giving the members who attend SLICS. Good cartridge hunting ........... Lew Curtis
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W.R.A.Co. & the .303 British Service Cartridges (1897 through 1916) by Brian A. Oldfield The .303 British cartridges were first produced by Winchester in the year 1897, for the Model 1895 Winchester rifle. Bullets were either Soft Point or Full Patch and weighed 215gr. The 215gr weight came from the English load then in use for the Lee-Metford service rifle (known in England as, “Cartridge Small Arms, Ball MK VI”). Early British loads for this cartridge had been, at first, compressed blackpowder. Later loads used Cordite powder, spaghetti-like in form that was placed in the cartridge case before the case was necked down (as was the blackpowder loading). Winchester never used cordite or blackpowder in any of its .303 ball loadings; all used nitrocellulose powder. The first or pilot run of this cartridge had the headstamp .303 ENGLISH. Winchester appears to have had great interest in this cartridge because, as early as 1907, they had broken down .303 cartridges by other makers. These cartridges were either sent or taken to the ballistics laboratory at New Haven. .303 cartridges by Eley Brothers, King’s Norton, Kynoch and the Dominion Cartridge Company were all fired or taken apart and measured. Copies of the ballistics lab cards show this practice ongoing until at least 1916. Even U.M.C. cartridges were subjected to this. Winchester took great interest in the “Palma Match” .303 cartridges supplied to the Canadian team by the Ross Rifle Co. These cartridges had a much longer, all steel, needle-pointed bullet. Results of these tests led Winchester to adjust their own version of the .303 British cartridges. Cartridge length was just one of the many changes they made.
215gr soft-point loading for the Model 1895 and Lee Rifles.
215gr full-patch loading also for the Model 1895 and Lee Rifles. This is a more or less direct copy of the British MK VI service loading.
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Front box label from what may well be Winchester’s first .303 British label. This is a round-corner box with a green label and a “sun burst” smokeless powder sticker. Note the headstamp on the cartridge shown on this label.
Introduced in 1916, this is the 174gr full patch MK VII loading for civilian use. This one comes from a box, purple labeled and marked 215gr full patch with an oversticker saying 174gr pointed.
In 1914, Britain and her allies entered WW1. Finding themselves short of both rifles and cartridges, they turned to North America. Winchester was, at that time, producing Model 1895 rifles for the Russian Czar chambered for the 7.62 Russian cartridge. This was a large contract supplied to the WRACo (in two parts) by the Baldwin Locomotive Co. (who had close contact with the Russian Government). Upon being approached by the British Government through JP Morgan & Co (who handled all Allied contracts), Winchester offered to turn over as much as possible of their plant. They also offered to build new premises and re-tool to meet all demands, which they subsequently did. At this time Winchester offered the British Government “A Mauser type bolt rifle which we are now working on”, capable of being adapted to the .303 British service cartridge. This was not the Enfield Model 1914 rifle. I wonder what rifle this could have been. The contract for the .303 service cartridge came to a total of 44 million MK VI cartridges. On October 27th 1914, the WRACo did start production of .303 service cartridges for England. This was done as a sub-contractor to the Remington Arms, U.M.C. Company on a contract supplied to REM-UMC by the Baldwin Locomotive Co. (Harold F Williams, his book, Winchester). This contract ran on into early 1915. The load consisted of 38.2gr of Improved Military #18 DuPont powder and the 174gr MK VII bullet.
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WRACo subcontract with REM-UMC?
Although I cannot prove this, I believe the above two headstamps were used by the WRACo to fill the aforementioned sub contract with REM-UMC. These are the only two known headstamps by the WRACo that show VII (Mark 7 bullet). All other WW1 Allied contract .303 British cartridges made by the WRACo just show a “W” and the last two year digits. The W 14 VII above came from England out of a red labeled 215gr box with an over sticker saying “174gr” and a black ink stamping over the front label of the letters VII.
A Remington Arms UMC cartridge from the Baldwin contract. Note the similarity of headstamp layout.
Winchester did get into producing both the Model 1914 Enfield service rifle (P 14) and many millions of .303 British service cartridges. Of note is the fact that all the .303 service cartridges supplied by the WRACo on contracts through J P Morgan were for the MK VI (Mark 6) loading only. These cartridges were for use in the older Lee rifles (and others). Winchester “took care” of all England’s needs for this loading.
This is one of the many millions of MK VI loads produced by the WRACo and known with both W 15 and W 16 headstamps.
WRACo records show that Winchester had acquired
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Also supplied to England were empty primed cases like this one. These empties were used for a variety of tasks, one being for pressure testing of the case itself.
“Standard” cartridges from the Royal Laboratory at Woolwich in London, England. These cartridges are a ballistic standard in both velocity and pressure generated on firing. One of the many uses of these cartridges is the setting and or testing of gun sights. Winchester copied the Standard cartridges and then produced their own version for use in North America. These cartridges were known as “American Standard” hence the “AS” in the headstamp below.
American Standard
According to loading and test firing cards from WRACo, this cartridge was just about dead on for pressure and within 10fps of those supplied by Royal Laboratory. As both Colt and Savage Arms Co. were involved in production of .303 British chambered guns, Winchester is thought to have supplied these cartridges to both of the above companies. As near as I can gather, the WRACo was the only company who made Standard .303 Service cartridges in North America. The British Government officially recognized these cartridges made by the WRACo - a first for a non British Commonwealth country. On Dec 12th 1916 the WRACo tested their first batch of .303 service cartridges for the U S Government. This was a contract with the WRACo for 3 million cartridges loaded with the MK VII bullet.
While I can’t prove this either, I think this may have been for the U S contract of 1916. This was not for England, as it has the MK VII bullet. The U S contract was for use in the Lewis machine gun.
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W 15 with MK VII bullet. Factory loading cards show this cartridge being loaded on several occasions during 1915, but not for whom.
This one dental x-rays to show an early form of tracer bullet. Factory loading cards for cartridges like this are first dated 1922. I doubt if the above is from that era.
Wood rod dummy with hole at shoulder, like the .236 USN?
The above are three cartridges made by the WRACo that I have not much information on. Winchester is known to have supplied “Dummy Drill” cartridges to England, but again, these had MK VI bullets, not the MK VII (they also have four holes in the casing). Primers used in all the Allied contract .303 service cartridges made by the WRACo were made of copper to meet British specifications and were the NF (non-fulminate) series.
Sadly, due to delays and a very “picky” English inspection team, Winchester fell behind on all their Allied contracts with J P Morgan. Due to contract wording, England could back out of all rifle contracts with the WRACo as of June 1916. This they did on September 21 st 1916. Winchester, Remington and Eddystone all stopped production of both the P 14 rifle and the .303 service cartridge on that date. The loss of these contracts plus much of the Baldwin / Russian contracts put Winchester in a financial position that it just never recovered from (They had the same “picky” problems building the P 17 and the .30-06 cartridge for the US Government - Williams, his book, Winchester). Test rifles used during the above time frame included several Model 1895 rifles; a small quantity of Number one Mark three, British Lee-Enfield’s. Several new P 14 rifles and at least one Winchester Hi-Wall. Winchester kept on producing the .303 British cartridges in sporting form and still does today. They have also made Ball MK VII on several occasions both during and after WW2, but that is another story. Only the 180gr soft point loading is made nowadays. Greatly missed by me and many others is the 215gr soft-point loading. This loading was just the ticket for those old Martini Henrys or Lee Speeds etc. I would like to give special thanks to Dan Shuey of WCF Publications for supplying a great number of Winchester documents regarding all aspects of the WRACo’s involvement with the .303 Service cartridges – thanks Dan; I couldn’t have done it without you! I’m only a mere cartridge collector, so any corrections or additional information you may have can be sent to me at,
[email protected]. [Editor’s Note: Headstamp illustrations shown enlarged for clarity]
East Coast Cartridge Show June 15-16, 2007 Lycoming College, Williamsport, PA Thursday 7-9pm - set up, Friday 8am-8pm, Saturday 8am-2pm Tables $25. College dorm rooms available Contact: Victor Engel, 1815 Ginny Lane, Williamsport, PA 17701 Tel: (570)322-4283; Fax: (570)326-9811; e-mail:
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Book Review: 20mm Suomessa (20mm in Finland, Weapons & Ammunition prior to 1945) by: Mika Pitkaenen und Timo Simpanen Reviewed by Chris Koll Hard bound, premium quality, glossy colour cover. A4 size, 264 pages. ISBN: 978-952-5026-59-7. It is available from the publisher Apali Oy, Finland (see details below). Price: Euros 49.50 (currently US $ 65.00) plus shipping. If you have ever wondered about the large variety of Finnish 20mm ammunition, this brand new book from early 2007 is a must-have for you! The authors Mika Pitkaenen and Timo Simpanen have done a great job in compiling a comprehensive study on all 20mm ammunition used in Finland prior to 1945. This includes three anti-tank guns and rifles, seven anti-aircraft guns, one naval gun and five aircraft guns, chambered in a total of eleven different calibres. The guns and ammunition used in Finland include types from Switzerland, Germany, Denmark, Italy and the Soviet Union, as well as numerous domestic designs. Hereby, also a number of experimental weapons like 13.2mm and 20mm designs of Aimo Lahti are described in detail. Because the scope of a book on just 20mm ammunition would be too narrow, the authors have included the developmental history and technical information of the corresponding guns as well. We also learn more about ammunition production in Finland, as well as about the economic relations between Finland and other European countries in the difficult times of World War Two. The authors have thoroughly researched Finnish military archives, a job that is impossible to do for anybody not capable of understanding the Finnish language. By including English summaries at the end of every chapter, this information is now available for international readers. All headings and captions are in English as well. The book starts with a historical overview about 20mm weapons and has consecutive chapters describing every calibre in detail. It is richly illustrated with many black and white pictures and original blueprint drawings. In the back of the book all 20mm car-
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tridges are displayed in perfect, full colour drawings. These drawings are described in English as well and also show the headstamps of the cartridges. The book is written in Finnish and has detailed chapter summaries in English. The publisher’s webpage http://www.apali.fi is in the Finnish language only, but orders in English are welcome through their email address:
[email protected] Additionally, communication in basic German and French is possible through this email address as well. Please note, that the book is not available from the authors. The authors previously wrote a book on Finnish small arms ammunition up to 20mm calibre, which is available from the same publisher. It has the title Suomalaiset Sotilas-patruunat 19181945 and has English summaries included as well.
From the Editor The last issue (#454) broke all records for delivery with many in the US taking over 3 weeks and some overseas members having to wait 4 weeks. Our Russian members seem to have got theirs before anyone else. Why, remains one of life’s mysteries! I need articles - 1 to 30 pages. I do try and balance each issue with available material. If your particular interests are absent, it means I haven’t got anything on file. I would like to see some article on the larger calibers and rimfires as material in these categories seems hard to come by. This is an IAA election year. All board positions except the two director posts held by Will Adye-White and Pepper Burruss are open. If you are interested in running or know someone who is, please contact the Nominations Committee Chairman, Gary Muckel (address on page 3).
...... Chris Punnett
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In Other Publications Chris Punnett California Cartridge Collectors (Feb 07)
Australian Cartridge Collectors’ Association (Issue 109)
Write: Rick Montgomery, 924 Little Joe
Write: Terry Warnock, 1 Shawbrook Ave., Benalla, VIC 3672, Australia Nice color cover showing a Gordon 20-gauge box and various .22 boxes. The history of Eley Brothers, Australia is accompanied by nice photos of their unique products. For those favoring larger calibers there is an article on the 40mm HEDP Grenade cartridges. Remington raised headstamp variations are shown as background for a piece on the company from 1871-1885. A 100rounds tin of .577 Buckshot is opened revealing Dum-Dum mint packets. Recently introduced cartridges are described and there’s some info on .32 rimfire & centerfire cartridges for the Marlin rifle, plus lots more.
Lane, Hamilton, MT 59840 This issue contains a John Moss special article on the Norwegian .45 ACP cartridge with John’s usual attention to detail. It will remain the definitive article on the subject.
Spanish Cartridge Collectors Association. (Jan/Feb 07) Write: Francisco Carreras Morate, Apartado de Correos No 1086, 28800 Alcalá de Henares (Madrid), Spain. The .357 Cabur Magnum cartridges are covered with color photos, factory drawings and specifications. The comprehensive article on projectiles continues with this part being on explosive and tracer bullets. Specifications for the 12.7x99 Spanish training dummy are provided.
Nebraska Cartridge Collectors (Nov/Dec 06) Write: Gary Muckel, 6531 Carlsbad Drive, Lincoln, NE 68510 For you rimfire guys there’s a .267 Remington checklist. Portions of a Remington catalogue and BRI shotshells advertising material are reproduced.
The Sunflower Bullet -Kansas Cartridge Collectors’ Association (Mar/Apr 07) Write: Vic Suelter, 2185 E. Iron Dr., Lincoln, KS 67455 There’s a multiple page summary of military multiball cartridges from the 45-70 to modern variations. The rare .45 Holden is discussed and there’s an article on the 12.7x44R Remington CF.
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Slovak Cartridge Club (Issue #22) Write: Mr. Jan Franzen, Brancska 7, 851 01 Bratislava, Slovak Republik An excellent article on the Russian Berdan cartridges includes the 10.66x48R carbine round. The Alton Jones series is described with color photos and dimensions. Another article on Czech shotshells, included pinfires, has some great illustrations. For the pistol ammo buffs we have nice articles on the .50 Remington pistol and the 455 Revolver. A really great issue!
The Cartridge Researcher (Mar 07) (European Cartridge Research Association)
12-g shotshells, Bulgarian 7.65 Parabellum, and a 13mm AT crate. Well illustrated articles on the sabotage cartridges, the Russian 18mm “less-thanlethal” ammunition, and more info on Zettl’s unique ammunition complete the issue.
New Zealand Cartridge Club Bulletin (Feb/Mar 07) Write: Kevan Walsh, 4 Milton Road, Northcote, Auckland 9, NZ A piece on Collath shotshells gauges has dimensional data and photos of some specimens. The challenges of standardizing shot sizes is well demonstrated by information on the various gauges used around 1900-1913. There’s a short but interesting article on the Adams’ “Dustbin” cartridges. The issue also has info on such diverse topics as air pellets, paper cartridges and .50 cal ammo.
The .22 Box (Mar/Apr 07) Association for the Study & Research of .22 Cal. Rimfire Cartridges Write: Richard Rains, S 4321 Bluff Road, Spokane, WA 99224 The full-color newsletter still makes me envious! The green Montgomery Ward series is illustrated. New products from HSM, Remington and Fiocchi are complemented by some nice early boxes from US manufacturers. There’s a checklist of RWS boxes and some great photos of “Spatterless” boxes.
Write: Martin Golland, Chapel House, Deepdale, Barton-on-Humber, N.Lincs, DN18 6ED UK Information is provided on the Hoppert 30-06/22 adaptors, transparent
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7.5 Swiss Chargers by Harrie Telkamp
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The K31 was succeeded by the StgW 57: this weapon had a similar caliber: 7.5 x 55. This weapon’s magazine could be loaded with the same clips but could also be loaded using a quick loader. This quick loader was yellow in color (see below). The magazine could contain 24 cartridges which is the equivalent of 4 clips. Furthermore a loading device was available in a wooden box. This device enabled quick loading of the magazines (see below left). The Chargers are provided in different colours:
Since 1880, the Swiss Army has been equipped with socalled Schmidt-Rubin rifles, named after Major Eduard Rubin and Rudolf Schmidt. Rubin was born on 17th July 1846 in Thun, and he developed the small caliber rifle ammunition, such as the designs for the GP11. Schmidt – born on 28th June 1832 in Basel – developed the straight-pull bolt-action rifle. Typical rifle designs by Schmidt were the Model 1889 rifle and the Model 1889/96 with the newer Model 1896 action that we find in the later 1911 series. The “Karabiner Model 1931” was a completely new design by Waffenfabrik Bern under Colonel Furrer, and the first troop trial rifles were made in May 1931 (K31). The Swiss straight-pull rifles (from model of 1889 to the 1931 W+F K31-Carabine) are normally loaded with ammunition supplied in 6-round chargers (strippers-clips). The charger is made of tinned steel and pasteboard. The early chargers had a single groove alignment at the front. Newer models had a second groove.
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Brown 1 groove: Brown 2 grooves: Purple 1 groove: Purple 2 grooves:
for GP 1890 (ball) GP as from 1900 (ball) for old Stahlkernpatronen (A.P.) for new Stahlkernpatronen as from approx. 1942 Green: Markierpatronen 1890 (blank) Green (wooden top): Markierpatronen 1903 (blank) White: Markierpatronen (blank) as from 1957 White (wooden top): Markierpatronen Model 58 Red: Manipulierpatronen (dummy) Red (wooden top): Manipulierpatronen (dummy)
The green, white and red chargers are supplied with or without a wooden top in the charger clip. More colors and varieties of clips can be encountered: these turn out to be faded by sunlight or just made from different chargers and made with different colors . Another very rare clip was the specially-made 4-round clip. This clip was used for the so-called International Military Match, that occurred from the late 1930’s. This required a 10-round course of fire, hence 1 charger of 6 rounds and 1 charger of 4 rounds. [Editor’s note #1: see also page 46, Letter to the Editor] [Editor’s note #2: see also color pictures on front cover]
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The .300 Target Cartridge by John Pople-Crump An often overlooked cousin of the .300 Rook Rifle cartridge is the .300 Target, designed for mid-range target shooting up to 300 yards.1 Introduced circa 1902, the earliest reference I have to the .300 Target is a Kynoch drawing A.B.10/ 37 dated 18th April 1902 (Fig 1).
Figure 1. Kynoch Drawing A.B.10/37 A longer bullet weighing 110 grains with an external lubricated cannelure gives the .300 Target round a distinctive appearance compared to the regular .300 Rook Rifle (Fig 2). Although the .300 Rook Rifle was itself a popular cartridge for target shooting, its 80 grain bullet was susceptible to side winds and its muzzle velocity of 1150 fps provided a bullet drop of 16.1 inches at 100 yards and 39 inches at 150 Figure 3.
.300 Rook 3 .300 Target 4 Mfr
Figure 2. .300 Rook Rifle and .300 Target
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yards (Fig 3).2 Increasing the .300 RR’s muzzle velocity to flatten the bullet’s trajectory was not viable because 1150fps was at the upper limit for a simple lead bullet before hot gases damaged the base and friction caused the rifling to strip the lead, destroying accuracy. Kynoch transformed the .300 Rook to Target configuration by using cordite to increase muzzle velocity and a heavier bullet incorporating Kynoch Limited & Houseman’s patent nickel base (British Patent 8707 dated 27th April 1901).5 This ‘gas-check’ in modern terminology prevented propellant gases squeezing past the lead bullet as it exited the muzzle at 1350 fps. The heavier 110 grain bullet was less susceptible to wind and Kynoch advised ‘a pitch of rifling not slower than one turn in 20 inches.’ to stabilize the Target bullet’s flight. The Kynoch .300 Target used the No.19 cap developed for the .303 Adaptor cartridge, instead of the No.4 cap normally used with the .300 Rook Rifle. With identical diameters, the Adaptor and Rook Rifle caps also used identical primer mixtures and quantities of mixture. The only difference between the caps were slight dimensional differences in metal thickness (.022 for No.19 and .018 inch for No.4) and heights of the respective anvils (.040-.045 for Target and .035-.040 inch for RR), presumably to assist combustion of the cordite propellant. The nitro-cellulose load developed by Eley Brothers exhibited slight dimensional differences in case and O/A length to Kynoch (Fig 4). The .300 Target shown in (Fig 1) is without headstamp and is loaded with a hollow-point bullet, secured with two stab crimps and appears to be a Kynoch product. A hollowpoint load is not listed in the Eley Loading Book.
Muzzle Velocity (fps)
Striking Velocity at 100yds (fps)
Height of Trajectory at Half Range over 100yds (inches)
Deflection due to 20 mph side wind at 100yds (inches)
1150 1350
969 1125
4.43 3.17
3.0 2.5
Case Length
Propellant
Bullet (grs)
KYNOCH 6
1.180 ins
ELEY 7
1.175 ins
5.5-grains ‘Pistol Cordite’ 5-grains RR Nitrokol
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Remarks
110 Solid
O/A Length 1.60 ins
110 Solid
1.45 ins
110 Copper tubed
1.55 ins
Case cannelure .895 inches from mouth in Feb 1910 & from base after 24th Jan 1911.
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Appearing first in Kynoch’s 1902/03 Price List, the .300 Target disappeared by the 1911 edition. The Eley version appears in their 1908 Price List and disappears by the 1910/11 edition. Enjoying only a brief life-span, the .300 Target was soon eclipsed by superior mid-range cartridges, notably the .300 Sherwood and examples are uncommon or go unrecognized.
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Introduced by Holland & Holland as .295 or .300 Rook Rifle, the .295 designation seems to have fallen largely into disuse by the end of the 19th century. ‘Weapons for Rifle Clubs – No 3. .300 & .297/250.’ The Kynoch Journal, Vol. II April-May, 1901, No. 10, pp77.
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Ibid. ‘Club Target Rifles’ The Kynoch Journal, Vol IV February-March 1903, No.21, pp67. Houseman was Kynoch’s chemist and ballistics expert. See Kynoch Price List 1902/03 and Birmingham Gun Barrel Proof House notes, the Proof House adopted a Proof load with the 110 grain bullet loaded with 6.6 grains of ‘Pistol Cordite’. Eley Loading Book, but note Eley Price List 1908 lists 4.5 grain Smokeless Powder. Also note shorter O/A length of Eley Target cartridges, borne out by 1908 illustration and very close to O/A length of 1.42 inches for regular .300 Rook Rifle quoted in Eley Loading Book.
Copyright John Pople-Crump 2006.
From David Damkaer, Washington. Several different Spanish 9mm Bergmann-Bayard boxes. All are tan with black lettering unless otherwise stated.
Above: Top and bottom. Contents headstamped P S 45
Above: This box is sealed by paper tape that goes around the box at the center. The paper tape is red (on the top and bottom) and white (the center part). On it is printed large letters “Fabrica Nacional Palencia” and the factory crest. On the box bottom is stamped “Cargados en Julio de 1948.” The headstamp is F N P 48.
Below: These boxes are sealed by a paper tape that starts on the top, continues over one end, and ends on the bottom. By showing three boxes, you can just about see all the tape: “Fabrica Nacional de Toledo 25 Cartuchos para Pistola Calibre 9 mm. (Largo).” There is no printing on the boxes themselves. The ctgs are in a paper egg-crate tray. The headstamp is FNT 1950
Above: Paper tape goes around box at middle; as before, red on top and bottom and center part white. Printing on tape: “Pirotecnia Militar de Sevilla.” Stamp on bottom says “Cargados en Septiembre 1952.” The headstamp is PS 1952
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SECCA 33rd Anniversary Trophy Cartridge Show August 3-4, 2007 Ramkota Inn, 2400 N. Louise Ave., Sioux Falls, South Dakota (Tel: 605-336-0650) Sponsored by the Sioux Empire Cartridge Collectors Association, and The Association for the Study and Research of .22 Caliber Rimfire Cartridges Show opens 8am Friday & Saturday. Table holders advance registration Thursday afternoon/evening. Live auction Friday evening. Banquet Saturday evening. Hospitality room Friday & Saturday evenings. First Trade Table: $40.00, 2nd Trade Table: $25.00, Display Table: $10.00, 3rd or more table: $10.00 ea Educational and Display Awards
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Patents and Trademarks John Kuntz Patent 2,522,208 Rimfire Rim Design
Robert T. Catlin Sept. 12, 1950
Patent 219,491 Multiball Cartridge
Henry W. Mason Sept. 9, 1879
Quote: “My invention relates to a cartridge for breech loading fire-arms: and consists of a peculiarly formed case to contain a multiple of balls.” It appears this one actually worked.
Mr. Catlin’s idea was to change the shape of the rim on rimfire cases to enable proper headspace while retaining thinner metal for the case.
Patent 1,181,849 Projectile
Geo. F. Coomer May 2, 1916
To provide means for projectile to spin or rotate after leaving bore.
Patent 1,179,021 Shotgun Adaptor
Henry K. Meyer Apr. 11, 1916
Appliance to allow shotgun to fire small caliber ball, rifled
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The Budd / Petmecky Bore Cleaner Material provided by Mark Schisler, John Kuntz and Tom Quigley In 1876, Bern Budd of Connecticut patented a device for cleaning cartridge shells (US patent 182,353 granted on September 19, 1876). In the words of the patent application: “The object of my invention is to produce a suitable instrument for cleaning the shells for cartridges, which may be of such convenient form as to be at all times available. “The invention consists of a metal tube or cylinder, a, Figure 1, provided at one end with a suitable brush, which may be made either by filling perforations in a suitable block or plug with bristles, in the manner in which wooden-back brushes are ordinarily made, or, what I prefer, by filling the tube with a bundle of bristles, b, and securing them in the tube by a suitable cement, c, which requires heat to render it fluid - as pitch, resin, shellac, or the like. This tube is closed at its lower end and terminates in a screw, d, upon which fits a suitable handle, e. The bristles standing out at an angle with the tube containing them, of course prevents the introduction of the brush into the shell, (a representation of which is seen at Figure 2.) Over the tube containing the bristles is fitted a second tube, f, provided with a flange at its bottom, of such diameter that it will pass easily into the cartridge-shell, open at its upper, and closed at its lower,
Budd’s Patent end with a perforated bottom, as seen at g, which allows the tube to play up and down upon the shank h. “It will now be seen that if the outer tube is shoved up so as to cover the bristles, as seen at Fig. 3, the brush so covered may be readily introduced into the shell; then,
A 12-gauge Budd/Petmecky Bore Cleaner. The sleeve (referred to as the “cylindrical clasp” in Petmecky’s patent) shows the remains of a FOWLER No 12 headstamp though Petmecky used any available brass cases. Side of the bore cleaner is stamped BUDD’S PAT. / SEP. 19. 1876 / J.C.PETMECKY / NOV. 27. 1883
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if the outer tube or sheath is drawn back, it allows the bristles to spread, as is seen in Fig. I and fill the cartridge shell...... In 1883, Joseph Petmecky of Austin, Texas, further develops the concept with his patent of November 27, 1883 (# 289,132) and applied it to cleaning gun barrels. His patent states: “My invention is an improvement in gun-cleaning implements. “It consists of a brush or cleaner formed in the main of spring metal (preferably brass,) and provided with bristles beveled at their free ends, so set in suitable holding parts as that when unconfined said bristles will move outward from a common axis and bear against the inner surface of a gun-barrel when placed within the same. “It consist, also, of a metallic cylindrical clasp provided at one end with flanges adapted to fit over the body and bristles of said cleaner to hold the latter to a confined position while the brush or cleaner is being placed in the barrel of a gun to be cleaned....... “In operating the cleaner or brush after the device is placed in the barrel, the said brush A is forced outside of the cylindrical clasp until the bristles a spring against the inner surface of said barrel. The cleaner is now forced inward, and then moved back and forward, in the usual way, to free the entire barrel of lead, caked powder, and other accumulated refuse matter. “An important point in my cleaner is the beveling of the free ends of the bristles a, so that a chisel-edge may
Petmecky’s Patent be presented constantly to the inner surface of the barrel while the said cleaner is at work.... The “Cylindrical clasp” mentioned in Petmecky’s patent is obviously the adapted brass shotshell, though his patent does not mention that adaptation specifically. These bore-cleaning devices are not uncommon and can be found in a variety of calibers.
California Cartridge Collectors Association 30th Annual Convention and Show June 15-17, 2007 LaQuinta Inn, 3 Centerpoint Drive, La Palma, CA 90623 (Room reservations: 714-670-1400 - mention the CCCA Annual Show for discount) Six-ft trade tables: members in advance $30, Display tables - free with trade table. Members paying at door $40.00. Non-members $45, based on availability Show Chairman: Radford Magruder, POB 6637, Pahrump, NV 89041 (775-751-2969)
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From Thomas E. Jones, Mississippi. This is one of the nicest letters one could hope to receive from a major company in response to a hand-scrawled letter. I had found an 8x57 round with a Kynoch headstamp and on a whim wrote the company as to why they produced this caliber during the war. Mr. J. Manton told me the story of the BESA machinegun and went on to give the specs. [Editor’s Note: I reformatted the letter to fit these pages but all information is intact]
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Holecek Self-Contained Cartridges of Czechoslovakia by Cartridges containing all of their components in the bullet have existed for a long time. Among the earliest examples are the American Hunt Rocket Ball and Volcanic cartridges, both dating to the first half of the 19th Century. Their biggest problems were the difficulty in manufacturing them with uniform dimensions, both of the ammunition and the rifle chambers, and the very corrosive primers of their day. Because of these inadequacies arms of these systems could not be improved upon much, so little development in the field of self-contained cartridges happened until the subject was revisited in the 20th Century. Well-known cartridges like the German Rocket rounds of the WWII era, and the later American Gyrojet rounds, are examples of one road taken by designers interested in the caseless cartridge. These were both based on principles of rocketry, however. Germany has produced a whole series of caseless cartridges, most relative to the G11 rifle, which has yet to be adopted by any military force. Ing. Jaroslav Holecek, a Czech arms designer well known in the West for his work on automatic weapons, such as the famed Brno Light Machine Gun which lead to the even more famous British Bren Gun, was one of the early developers of caseless ammunition in the 20th Century. Ing. Holecek worked for the well-known firm of “Zbrojovka Brno.” The arms factory at Brno, Czechoslovakia was one of the more important centers for arms design and production in the world. Holecek’s interest in self-contained cartridges followed the route taken earlier: the development of small arms types. He knew inherently that things such as limited powder capacity, size and weight of projectiles, etc. made large-caliber caseless cartridges relatively impractical. Therefore he concentrated on what he considered their only practical usage and strove to construct pistol-type cartridges for use in a submachine gun. His final development of a caseless cartridge was intended as a substitute for the 9mm Luger. Ing. Holecek’s first engineering attempt for his caseless-
cartridge submachine gun was a modified version of the Czechoslovak submachine-gun Cz vz. 247. Proceeding from there, he ended up with a newly-designed submachine gun of very simple construction, having only 39 parts. This weapon utilized a version of the blow-forward barrel for operation, using a mobile barrel of 14.37" length. The blowforward system (used before in a manually-operated application for anti-tank rifles by Zbrojovka Brno) enabled a longer barrel than other systems, allowing higher velocity. The total length of the weapon, not including stock, was 18.58" and with the shoulder stock 28.74". The empty magazine for 32 cartridges had a weight of 0.4299 lb and after loading reached approximately 1lb. The submachinegun without magazine weighed 4.86 lb and with a full magazine, 5.86 lb. Bullets achieved a muzzle velocity of 1312fps and the shooter could regulate the rate of fire at intervals 4501000 shots per minute. Bullets were well stabilized in flight, and the barrel had a very long working life.
White colour around primers has no meaning, it is merely residue from the buffing composition used to polish the cartridges.
Initial development work was done with calibre .177", but this was not a success and Holecek quickly focused his attention on calibre .354" (9mm), which was more likely to find practical use and employment. The cartridge was engineered with a thick-walled self-contained bullet and case, and was turned from steel with the front ogival in shape. Thickness of the cartridges walls was determined for withstanding pressures of 2549 bar. The cartridge design included a groove and a thin rim. At firing there was sufficient energy to collapse the rim allowing the bullet unimpeded
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flight down the barrel. Powder loads consisted of nitrocellulose cube (tabular) powder - 5.6 grains. Cartridges were primed with pressed-in express-type primers with a diameter of .236", a type previously used in shot cartridges. Functioning was perfect and remnants of the primers went up the barrel and out. The form and construction of these cartridges are best illustrated by the previously shown photo and the drawings below. The cartridge had a total weight of 129.9 grains, with the weight reduced to 123.4 grains. As it passed through and out of the barrel. The cartridge passed several developmental stages and later was made with the steel body having two copper guiding belts (bands). This addition greatly heightened the working life of the barrel.
Experiments were also made with cartridges of the system Gerlich, the weapon for which had a conical bore wherein the bullets were reduced from .354" to .283" during boretravel. This cartridge had a weight of 83.6 grains and reached a muzzle velocity of 1663fps. These cartridges and the arms for them did not reach serial production as development was not continued. In Czechoslovakia, just as in other countries, no official service of the country implemented these arms or their selfcontained cartridges. These systems are now part of ammunition history, but in fact, their level of function was superior to many later developments in the field of selfcontained (caseless) ammunition.
From Terry Warnock, Australia. An Eley 100-case box from Belgium - note gunmaker on side. IAA Journal Issue 455, May/Jun ‘07
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Company Histories by George Kass Hamilton Watch Company, Lancaster, Pennsylvania In 1892 the Hamilton Watch Company was formed through the efforts of a group of leading Lancaster business and professional men. Included in this group were Messrs J.W.B. Buausman, John F. Brimmer, Harry B. Cochran, Frank P. Coho, C.A. Fondersmith, George M. Franklin, John C. Hager, J.P. McCaskey, H.M. North, Martin Ringwalt, J. Fredrick Sener, William Z. Sener, James Shand, Peter T. Watt and H.S. Williamson. Another watchmakers preceded Hamilton Watch in Lancaster using the same factory. The factory was originally built for Adams and Perry Company in 1874, the Lancaster Watch Company made it home here from 1877 to 1885 and then housed the Keystone Watch Company from 1886 to 1890.1 Hamilton Watch Company succeeded where three others had failed by having assessed the market and determining that there was a need for a railroad watch of both accurate and dependability. Because of numerous railroad mishaps the publicity resulted in the adoption of official Railway Watch Inspection services that required employees in charge of train operations to have a watch of approved quality and subject to frequent inspection. A large railroad watch was built in 1893 to meet specifications of the Time Inspection rules that the railroads had established. In the short period till 1900 this watch had become a favorite of the railroad men.1 During World War I Hamilton Watch Company was a major supplier of vital instrumentation to the government. World War II followed the same pattern and by 1941 the factory’s total output was devoted to military production. Products included marine chronometers, sturdy chronometer watches for torpedo boats and navigation master watches for bombers.1 In addition in the field of ordnance, fuzes were produced. An addition to the plant was built in 1942 for fuze manufacturing. The North Plant was used solely for loading the fuzes. The rest of the fuze was made at the main plant, the factory on Columbia Avenue. Since the fuzes contained clockworks, various parts were made and assembled in different departments of the factory. The Train Department assembled the component trains of cogwheels, the Plate Department made the frames that retained the arbors and wheels, etc.2 Because mechanical time fuzes were among the most troublesome items in the ammunition program, their manufacture demanded some means of systematic cooperation among contractors. In the spring of 1942, General Campbell and Mr. Roy T. Hurley of the Bendix Aviation Corporation, set out to form an industry integration committee for this
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Postcard from author’s collection. 6 purpose. At the end of April 1942 they called a meeting of representatives from the six companies, including Hamilton Watch, holding contracts for the M43 fuze, plus Frankford Arsenal, to discuss ways of sharing the experience of the four firms that were already in production with the two that were just getting started. Within four months the newly formed M43 Mechanical Time Fuze Committee not only increased production by about 100 percent but, also introduced improved manufacturing techniques that greatly reduced the cost of the fuze.3
Legislative Alerts The following is a list of Internet websites that specialize in identifying legislation that could impact our hobby. Several of them can provide email alerts. We apologize for the fact that it is US-centric and would be delighted to add websites covering the topic for other countries. www.keepandbeararms.com www.saf.org (Second Amendment Foundation) www.nraila.org (NRA Institute for Legislative Action) www.gunowners.org (Gun Owners of America) For state info (from En Garde in #436):http://www.findlaw.com (select “Search Cases & Codes,” select state, then “Codes.” http://www.yahoo.com (select “Government,” U.S. Government,” “State Government,” select state, then “Law.”
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United States War Department Supply Bulletin SB 9-35 dated 1 August 1945, List of Manufacturers and Their Symbols, lists Hamilton Watch Company, Columbia Avenue, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, as having been assigned the letters “HAM”.7 After World War fuze production was ceased until the Korean Conflict (1951-1952). In 1954 the decision was made to form an Ordnance Division. Seven men were brought in to a Research and development group. By 1971 this division was the major operation of the Company and thus the name was changed to better reflect the operations, Hamilton Technology, Inc.4 [more on Hamilton Technology Inc. in the next issue]
Bibliography & References
(2) Loose, John Ward Willson, President of the Lancaster County Historical Society, letter of March 11, 1987. (3) Thompson, Harry C. and Mayo, Lida - United States Army in World War II, The Technical Services, The Ordnance Department: Procurement and Supply - Office of the Chief of Military History, Department of the Army, Washington, DC, 1960, page 122. (4) James, John - telephone conversation March 18, 1978. (5) Bowman, John J. - “Lancaster’s Part in the World’s Watchmaking Industry” - in Papers Read Before the Lancaster County Historical Society, Vol. XLIX, No. 2, Lancaster, PA, 1945. (6) Postcard - Forensic Ammunition Service collection. (7) War Department - SB 9-35 List of Manufacturers and Their Symbols - War Department, Washington 25, D.C. 1 August 1945.
(1) “Hamilton Technology, Inc.” undated
From Dr. J.R. Crittenden Schmitt, Maryland Top left: 800mm shell and case for Dora German Cannon, WW2, from the U.S. Army Ordnance Museum. Left and above: 90mm T22E12 Experimental Flechette Cannister, 1960s. Showing full sectioned round plus close-ups of the cannister.
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Polte Development of 9mm Parabellum Iron Core (mE) Bullets by Lew Curtis Polte appears to have been the agency that developed the German iron core 08 mE bullet. This bullet with a blackened jacket shows up on Polte 9mm Parabellum production in 1940 and doesn’t appear in the production of the other makers of 9mm P 08 cartridges until 1941 or 1942. The following drawings document Polte’s search for the ideal shape for the iron core and show the effort started at least as early as the fall of 1937. These cores are very different from the mushroom shape of the cores used in production mE bullets. Note the lead is concentrated at the front of the bullet and the iron core sits at the base of the bullet. In early 1938 it is clear that Polte was still trying to find the ideal core shape and location. The two bullets illustrated on the opposite page still have the majority of the lead near the tip of the bullet and the iron cores toward the base. This would have the effect of moving the center of gravity forward. It appears that it was in late 1939 that Polte had settled on the basic design of the mE bullet with the familiar mushroom shape core, but the detail design was apparently still evolving. Note the two drawings on page 24 from November 1939, one with a flat base and one with a concave base. Note also that the core has been moved to the front of the bullet and the lead is in the sides and rear. By mid-1940 the design appears to have stabilized on the concave base (see page 25). This design is extremely similar to the November 1939 designs and the June 1940 and January 1941 designs appear to be basically identical. The January 1941 design appears to have a less concave base and more lead at the rear of the core. The earliest dated case I have with a mE bullet is headstamped lot 22 of 1938, but the weight of this load falls well within the weight range of other later mE loads in my collection. I have not had this cartridge X-rayed so it could be an early mE bullet, or more likely just an early case that was loaded with a standard mE bullet in the 1940 time frame. Since no confirmed examples of these experimental mE bullets are known, it is not known whether they had the familiar
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black jackets or were GM colored. It is wise to weigh all Polte 9mm P from 1936 and later to see if they may be experimental mE bullets. Additional drawings of the cores are available on my website at http://gigconceptsinc.com. If you have any further information on the early development of mE bullets, or have examples of mE bullet loads from before 1940, please contact me. My email is
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United States Cartridge Company Headstamps by Gary Muckel U.S. 30-30. US 15 VII (303) US.15 VII (303) US 16 VII (303) US.16 VII (303) US.17 VII (303) .U.S. 32 A.C.P. U.S. 32 POLICE U.S. 32 COLT. (Colt New Police) .U.S. 32 COLT. (Colt New Police) U.S. 32 COLT. (32 Long Colt) .U.S. 32 COLT. (32 Long Colt) U.S. 32 WEBLEY U.S. 32 S.&W. U.S. 32 S&W. .U.S. 32 S.&W. U.S. 32 S&W.L. U.S. 32 S.&W.L. .U.S. 32 S.&W.L. .U.S. 32 W.C.F. .U.S. 32 WIN.C.F. 32. WINCH U.S. .U.S. 38 A.C.P. U.S. 38 ARMY. U.S. 38 COLT NAVY. U.S. 38 L. U.S. 38 LONG. U.S. 38 WEBLEY. .U.S. 38 WEBLEY. U.S. 38 S.&W. U.S. 38 S.&W. (Large letters) U.S. 38 S&W. .U.S. 38 S.&W. U.S. 38 S&W POLICE. U.S. 38 S&W. SPECIAL. .U.S. 38 S&W. SPECIAL. U.S. 38 WIN. C.F. .U.S. 38 W.C.F. .U.S. 41 COLT S.D.A. .U.S. 41 LONG. D.A. U.S. 44. COLT. U.S. 44 COLT. .U.S. 44. COLT. U.S. 44. AM U.S. 44 S.&W.A. .U.S. 44 S.&W.A. U.S. 44 RUSSIAN. .U.S. 44 S&W.R. U.S. 44 BULLDOG. .U.S. 44 BULLDOG. U.S. 44 WEBLEY. U.S. 44 W.C.F. .U.S. 44 W.C.F.
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U.S.C. CO. * 18 * U.S.C. CO. 19 U.S.C. CO. * 19 * U.S.C. CO. 30-30 REM. .U.S.C. CO. 30-30 REM. U.S.C. CO. 30 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. 30-30 .U.S.C. CO. 30-30 U.S.C. CO. * 30-30 * .U.S.C. CO. * 30-30 * U.S.C. CO. 30 GOV. .U.S.C. CO. 30 GOV. U.S.C. CO. 5-07 (30-40 Krag) U.S.C. CO. 300 SAV .U.S.C. CO. 303 SAV. U.S.C. CO. 303 BRITISH. U.S.C. CO. 7.62 M-M. (Russian) U.S.C. CO. 16 U.S.C. CO. 17 U.S.C. CO. 7.65 M-M (Mauser) U.S.C. CO. 7.65 M/M M.A.1914 U.S.C. CO. 32 S.C. U.S.C. CO. 32. S.C. U.S.C. CO. 32 S&W. U.S.C. CO. 32 S.&W. U.S.C. CO. 32 COLT. N.P. .U.S.C. CO. 32 COLT N.P. U.S.C. CO. 32 A.C.P. U.S.C. CO. .32 A.C.P. U.S.C. CO. 32 L.C. U.S.C. CO. 32 S&W.L. U.S.C. CO. 32 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. 32 W.H.V. U.S.C. CO. 32 SLR. U.S.C. CO. .32 REM. U.S.C. CO. 32 W.S. .U.S.C. CO. 32 W.S. U.S.C. CO. 32-40. U.S.C. CO. 32-40. H.V. U.S.C. CO. 33 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. 35 REM. U.S.C. CO. 35 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. 35 S.L.R. .U.S.C. CO. 35 S.L.R. U.S.C. CO. 351 S.L.R. .U.S.C. CO. 351 S.L.R. U.S.C. CO. 9M/M LUGER. U.S.C. CO. 9M/M B.L. U.S.C. CO. .357 S.&W. U.S.C. CO. 38 SHORT. .U.S.C. CO. 38 SHORT. U.S.C. CO. 38 LONG. U.S.C. CO. 3-09.
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U.S.C. CO. 4-10. U.S.C. CO. 2-11. U.S.C. CO. 6-11. U.S.C. CO. 3-12. U.S.C. CO. 5-12. U.S.C. CO. 3-13. U.S.C. CO. 38 S&W. U.S.C. CO. 38 S&W. (Large hs) U.S.C. CO. 38 A.C.P. U.S.C. CO. 38 COLT N.P. .U.S.C. CO. 38 COLT N.P. U.S.C. CO. 38 COLT SP’L U.S.C. CO. .38 COLT SP’L U.S.C. CO. 38 COLT. SP’L. U.S.C. CO. 38 SPL. SPEED U.S.C. CO. 38 S&W. SP’L. U.S.C. CO. 38 S.&W. SP’L U.S.C. CO. 380 CAPH U.S.C. CO. 38 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. .38.40 H.V. U.S.C. CO. 38-40 H.V. U.S.C. CO. 38-40. H.V. U.S.C. CO. 38-55 .U.S.C. CO. 38-55 U.S.C. CO. 38-55. H.V. U.S.C. CO. 41 S.D.A. (Short case) U.S.C. CO. 41 S.D.A. (Long case) U.S.C. CO. 41 L.D.A. U.S.C. CO. 44 S&W.A.
U.S.C. CO. 44 S&W.R. U.S.C. CO. 44 COLT U.S.C. CO. 44 S&W. SP’L. .U.S.C. CO. 44 S.&W. SP’L. U.S.C. CO. 44 WEBLEY. U.S.C. CO. 44 W.C.F. U.S.C. CO. 44-40. H.V. U.S.C. CO. .44-40 H.V. U.S.C. CO. 45 A.C.P. U.S.C. CO. 17 U.S.C. CO. 3-13 U.S.C. CO. 3-17 U.S.C. CO. 4-17 U.S.C. CO. 5-17 U.S.C. CO. 6-17 U.S.C. CO. 7-17 U.S.C. CO. 18 U.S.C. CO. 45 A.R. U.S.C. CO. 45 COLT. .U.S.C. CO. 45 COLT. U.S.C. CO. 45-70 .U.S.C. CO. 45-70 U.S.C. CO. 45-70. H.V.
45-70-500 OR 45-55-405 Contracts for US Gov’t R 5 L 79 R 6 L 79
R 7 L 79 R 8 L 79 R 9 L 79 R 11 L 79 R 12 L 79
Questionable Headstamps found on some lists U.S. 25-20 U.S. 41 SDA U.S. 44 CF U.S.C. CO. 44 HV R 1 L 80 R 3 L 80 R 4 L 80 R 5 L 80
50-70 Gov’t Contract R L 4 79 Contracts to S. America or Argentina A G 93 (43 Spanish) A G 94 (43 Spanish) A G 95 (43 Spanish) A P G * 08 * (38 Colt Army) A P G m— 09 m— (38 Colt Army)
The Better Half by Paul Smith .455 Revolver (left to right) Mk 1. Headstamp is: R L I Mk II. Headstamp is: K II C. Note glazed card disc over chopped cordite charge. Mk II. Headstamp is: W.R.A. Co. 455 II Mk VI. Headstamp is: DC 43 455 VI. Note GM jacket. Mk VI. Headstamp is: K42 VIZ. Note CN jacket. Target. Headstamp is: D.C.Co. .455.
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Coming Events June 15-16, 2007. East Coast Cartridge Show, Lycoming College, Williamsport, PA. Contact; Vic Engel, 1815 Ginny Lane, Williamsport, PA 17701 (570-322-4283) June 15-17, 2007. California Cartridge Collectors Show, LaPalma, CA, Contact: Radford Magruder POB 6637 Pahrump, NV 89041 (775-751-29690 July 12-14, 2007. Rocky Mountain Cartridge Collectors Show. Ramada Plaza, Denver. Contact: John Roth, 7954 Wagon Wheel Rd, Morrison, CO 80465 August 3-4, 2007, Sioux Empire Cartridge Collectors Association Show. Ramkota Inn, Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Contact: Bob Cameron, 14597 Glendale Ave. SE, Prior Lake, MN 55372 (952-447-3624)
August 17-18, 2007. Pennsylvania Cartridge Collectors Show. Holiday Inn, Morgantown, PA. Contact: Paul Callow, 19 Walnel Dr., Royersford, PA 19468 (610-948-8306) or Jon Cohen, 273 Beacon Dr., Phoenixville, PA 19460 (610933-7318) Sept 6-8, 2007. Northwest Cartridge Collectors Show, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. Contact: Dick Rainbolt, 1801 Gilbert Ave., Coeur d’Alene, ID 83815 (208-664-9907) Sept 28-29, 2007. ECRA International Meeting, Landhorst, The Netherlands. Details to follow. October 26-27, 2007. North Cartridge Show at Leroy Sportsmans Club, Leroy, Illinois. Contact: Steve Anderson, 605 Meadow Lane, Leroy, IL 61752 (309-962-7641) And beyond....... March 20-22, 2008 - St. Louis International Cartridge Show April 9-11, 2009 - St. Louis International Cartridge Show April 1-3, 2010 - St. Louis International Cartridge Show
From Keith Pagel, Ohio. 9mm Parabellum from IMI (Israel), billed as +P and hazardous for some 9mm pistols. Tan 50 round box, Hebrew markings in black ink, copper jacketed, lead core, FMJ bullet, no tip color code, brass case, brass percussion primer, TZZ 92 headstamp, purple primer sealant. Cartridges held in an olive drab plastic tray
European Cartridge Research Association
From Will Adye-White. Tan label on tin. Note “Imperial Ottoman Government”.
Opposite: from Dick Fraser, Connecticut IAA Journal Issue 455, May/Jun ‘07
The European Cartridge Research Association (E.C.R.A. for short) is not quite as old as the I.A.A., but runs it a close second, being now more than 40 years old. Its monthly bulletin The Cartridge Researcher is published in four languages, English, French, German and Dutch (your choice) and is sent by airmail to overseas members. It contains many Questions and Answers, plus articles and information. The annual dues are $40 for overseas members and the subscription period is the calendar year. Those joining during the year will receive backissues of the bulletin from the start of the year. Please contact Vic Engel, 1815 Ginny Lane, Williamsport, PA 17701, USA for a membership application form, or write the Secretary of the English Language Group of the E.C.R.A. - Martin Golland, Chapel House, Deepdale, Barton-onHumber, N. Lincs DN18 6ED, UK.
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Disposing of Collections When the Collector in the Family Dies by Will Adye-White The purpose of this article is to give some guidance to those who will have to deal with the disposal of our collections when we die. These people could be family members, executors or friends. The vast majority of these people have no idea as to the value of our collections, nor will they have any idea as to how to dispose of them. This article is directed towards them. It is also directed at the collectors in the family. Start to think about what you want to happen to your collection if you were out of the picture so that you can let the people you care about know your wishes.
Determine what is in the collection and what it is worth. Make an inventory of what is in the collection. If you need help, enlist the aid of appraisers, collectors, friends, auctioneers, etc. You may have to pay for this assistance. Don’t accept the first offer if you don’t know what it is that you have. Make it clear to anyone looking at the collection, exactly what you expect of them, i.e. a written evaluation, assistance in cataloguing the collection, an offer, etc. Don’t sell individual items out of the collection until you know what you have and what everything is worth. Selling the best first may make the remainder of the collection unattractive or unsaleable to a potential buyer. Try to find the collectors notes and records if they exist. Consult your lawyer and tax accountant.
Disposing of the Collection (Selling the Collection) There are 4 major avenues for selling a collection. They are: 1. Selling at Auction 2. Selling to a friend, collector or dealer 3. Having it sold on consignment by a friend or dealer 4. Selling it yourself.
1) Selling at Auction a) If there are enough rare pieces or the collection is big enough to attract many potential buyers, then an auction may be in order.
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b) Get a reputable Auction house that specializes or has the knowledge to deal with the collection. c) Have the auction house detail what can be expected as to potential value of the collection and what can be anticipated (a rough estimate) for the realized value d) Be very clear as to what the costs and expenses are that you will be responsible for and what they will be responsible for (i.e. catalogue costs, photography costs, etc.) e) Understand what their cut will be on the selling price. Also, understand what and if they will be charging the buyers a premium. f) Find out if they will be selling everything in one auction or will the items be spread out over multiple auctions (this may delay the settlement of the estate)
2) Selling to a friend, collector or dealer Recognize that you may or may not (probably not) realize the full appraised value of the collection. Dealers have to make a living too, so they will not offer the highest price Collectors may offer a high price but may only want to buy specific items out of the collection (usually the best and rarest pieces). However collectors will usually pay closer to the full value than a dealer will. Friends (usually collectors who are friends) can usually be very helpful. However, they usually don’t collect what your spouse collected and may or may not be interested in buying the whole collection. Again, they may only have interest in certain key items. Selling parts of the collections to various interested parties (friends, collectors, dealers and auctioning some) may be a very viable option.
3) Selling a collection by consignment · If you choose this route, be very careful. · You may end up with the highest possible price next to auctions by this means · Very carefully check out the person who is going to be selling the items. This includes the person’s reputation, competency with regards to the material in the collection and their record regarding paying after the sales.
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· Be sure that both you and the seller have a detailed list of items for sale and the estimated prices associated with each item. This way, as items are sold, you will be able to determine where you stand both in relation to liquidating the collection and with regard to being paid!
4) Selling the collection by yourself If you know the value of the items and who is interested in purchasing them, this is a good way to deal with the collection. However, if you don’t have an intimate detailed knowledge of the collection and you don’t personally know the potential buyers, then DON’T DO THIS! You must track down the buyers and make all arrangements with the buyers This may take years if you decide to break up the collection and sell it as single items.
Taxation Taxation is a much trickier subject to address. Since the readers of this diatribe will be scattered around the world, providing detailed tax information is out of the question. However, there are certain accounting and tax rules that will be universal. 1) Where ever you live, your Government would like to tax you on everything they can get away with. Consult a competent tax accountant at the first opportunity. Preferably use someone with collectibles and the taxation of collections within your tax jurisdiction. 2) The purchase price plus any costs to sell the item(s) or collection represent the Adjusted Cost Base (what was paid for an item plus costs of disposition). This number is important when determining whether a profit was made and how much taxes will be payable on that sale. 3) Some items may sell for less than the purchase price. This generates a loss which may, or may not, be deductible against gains on other sales. Again, consult a knowledgeable tax accountant. 4) Declare the sale of the collection either to the estate of the deceased or as your income (depending on your local rules). Failure to do so could result in criminal charges (tax evasion) or charges under your tax act (which may have worse consequences, just ask Al Capone!). You do not want to upset you local tax authorities nor do you want to appear on their radar. DO IT RIGHT the first time.
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Resources Available 1) Many of the members of the IAA have experience in disposing of collections and may be of assistance. Don’t assume that this assistance will be free. Make sure everyone understands the arrangement from the outset. 2) Financial Advisers, Tax Accountants, Estate Lawyers, Auction houses, other collectors, friends (who are collectors), other trusted advisors. 3) The internet may be of assistance in finding valuations and groups or organizations of collectors. 4) Your Local Tax Authority (Canada Revenue Agency, The IRS, The Inland Revenue, etc, etc.) 5) Collectors books, publications, magazines, journals, etc.
“To Do” List for the collectors in the family: 1. Make sure your Will and Power of Attorney’s are current and up to date. 2. Talk to your spouse and executor and let them know how to handle your collection, who to call, who to trust and what is the value and what you paid for it. 3. Document your collection. Give as full a description as possible with information on what you paid for the items, and what they are currently worth. Also, who is interest in this item, and their contact information. 4. Help your spouse and executors by leaving a detailed plan on how to dispose of the collection. You are the one who knows the collection the best and you know how best to sell it and to whom to sell it too. 5. Be considerate and do a little work to save your spouse and executor a lot of stress. 6. Get good tax advice.
One final note to spouses and executors: If you have a funeral for the collector in the family and you publish an obituary with the time and date of a funeral, then hire a security guard to protect the home and collection during that day. If the collector was well known and was known to have a valuable collection, someone may not be able to resist the temptation of a break-in. However, this ALSO applies to family members (close and distant) who might take it upon to help themselves to what in their mind they believe should belong to them. Rightly or wrongly, this is a job that belongs to the executor and only to the executor. If any relative or friend takes anything from the estate, the executor be could be financially liable if he or she did nothing to protect the estate. The executor must take immediate possession of all property of the estate.
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From Jim Buchanan, England: bits & pieces THE WAR OFFICE AND THE SMOKELESS POWDER COMPANY. 1895. The Smokeless Powder Co., Ltd., have recently reproduced in pamphlet form, and distributed among members of Parliament, a round of correspondence which has passed between them and the War Office and other Government departments on the subject of the Company’s smokeless powders. It opens with a letter addressed on behalf of the Company, to the Secretary of State for War, and is as follows: My Lord, I have the honour to submit, by the direction of my board a copy of resolutions which were this day passed with regard to the question of small arms ammunition. I am also instructed to briefly recapitulate a few points regarding to “Rifleite.” 1. It is manufactured for the .303 calibre, and gives velocities of 2,000 f.s. plus minus 40, with pressures lower those of pellet powder. 2. The mean variation in its velocities are well within limits laid down for the Lee-Metford rifle. 3. A grade is also manufactured for the .450 calibre giving the same velocity as 85 grs. of black powder in the Martini Henry with equal or lower pressures. 4. Both the “ Rifleite .303 “ and the “ Rifleite .450” are remarkably successful in the Maxim and Gardner machine guns of these calibres, for which powder to load many millions of cartridges has this year been supplied for use in these weapons. 5. The five years during which “Rifleite “ has been sold to the ammunition and rifle makers at home and abroad have afforded ample proof of its stability. In no instance has report come from any part of the world of its failing in any respect. 6. Besides being smokeless by day it is flameless by night as was demonstrated in 1893 at the Ash Ranges, Aldershot when teams from about eighteen regiments using this powder entered for the Night Firing Competition instituted by this Company.
From a catalogue dated 1915 - first mention of “Green Powder” that I have seen.
I have the honour to be, my Lord, your obedient servant. (Signed)
L. G. DUFF GRANT, Secretary. Lancaster Concentrator 1882
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A selection of string-tied packets from Jim Buchanan
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.450 “Roumanian” Revolver Cartridge compiled by Chris Punnett This cartridge is something of an enigma. Firstly, it isn’t a .45 caliber cartridge and, secondly, its name - “450 Roumanian” appears to be one of convenience rather than having any proven connection to that country. Brandt & Müller, in their Manual of Pistol and Revolver Cartridges, Volume III, state “All hints point at the possibility that it was intended for a Roumanian revolver”, but fail to mention why they think that. The cartridge appears a number of times in Robert Buttweiler’s auction catalogues where it is referred to as the “.450 Romanian Bottleneck Revolver” and refers also to an SFM drawing of 1901. The SFM drawing #10106B dated August 7, 1901 is shown opposite where you will note the complete absence of the word “Roumanian” (or “Romanian”). This drawing clearly calls it a .450 Revolver cartridge and depicts the bottlenecked case holding a jacketed bullet of 11.05-11.10mm (0.435-0.437 ins) - in other words a .44 caliber projectile. The normal bullet diameter for an SFM-produced .450 revolver cartridge was 11.6-11.7mm (0.457-0.461 ins). See Figure 2 below. Note also that the drawing opposite actually shows the land and groove dimensions of the revolver involved which dictated the diameter of the bullet. The weight of the projectile is not given. So the first question is why SFM would call this a .45 caliber cartridge when it was clearly a .44 caliber cartridge? On the drawing opposite, you will note on the 3rd line: “Commande No 5079 - Gálatzi - du 3 Juillet 1901” - Order No 5079 - Gálatzi - of 3 July 1901. Here we have a possible connection to Romania. IAA member Liviu Stoica, originally from Romania himself, tells us that Gálatzi was the old spelling of the Romanian city of Galati which is on the Danube
Fig. 1. 450 “Roumanian”. Punnett collection. Clearly showing the bottlenecked case. Scale 2:1. not far from the Danube Delta (the word “Galati” has an accent on the “t” which looks like a comma below it, but I cannot reproduce it here). Liviu goes on to say that in 1879 a Navy Arsenal was established at Gálatzi. His research also indicates that the Romanian Army ordered some Spanishmade S&W revolvers in circa 1900, but these were in .44 Russian caliber. The word “Gálatzi” on the drawing opposite could just as easily be the name of a person who ordered the cartridge rather than the Romanian arsenal of that name. So the 2nd question is was it really associated with Romania at all? There are a few variations on this round that are known to exist: #1 Ball - inside primed, rsd h/s GG 450, CN jacket. #2 Dummy - hole in case, berdan primed, G* 450 headstamp, GM jacket #3 Dummy - hole in case, berdan primed, G* 450 headstamp, CN jacket Buttweiler also refers to large and small primers on items #2 & 3 above. Dimensions from the specimen in my collection, in inches: Bullet dia.: Case length: Rim dia.: Head dia.: Neck dia.: O/A length:
Fig. 2. “normal” S FM .450 caliber bullet. From SFM Drawing #10029, Sept. 1902
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0.419 (at case mouth) 0.684 0.505 0.475 0.453 1.113
If you have further information about this round or the weapon for which it was intended please let us know. I’d like to thank Liviu Stoica for his assistance, Yves Etievant for sharing information on the rounds in his collection, and Amand Leveau for the SFM drawing.
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Figure. 3. .44-caliber revolver cartridge commonly referred to as the “.450 Roumanian”. SFM Drawing 10106B dated August 7, 1901.
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Schlesinger & Wells Ammunition Works at Northfleet, Kent, 1854 Material provided by Jim Buchanan from the Illustrated London News, Oct. 1854 Extensive Contract For The Supply Of Ball Cartridges To The Turkish Government.
enclosure. The girls, as fast as they form the paper tubes, place them tidily and neatly in wooden boxes which, when full are forthwith carried into drying rooms. It is also to be observed that the whole method in this stage of the cartridge manufacture differs from that adopted by our Government in the arsenals. There the cartridge is tied up with strings in brown paper. When dry, they receive the powder. We understand that the girls roll an average of from 1000 to 1500 of these paper tubes per day each. For this paper department of the complicated manufacture of ball cartridges women are the most efficient, they do work of that description both more neatly and more rapidly than men could. The tubes when completed are stored in racks and carried from the room which we have now examined, through a passage leading into another building apart altogether from the manufactory. In this new building we find about a hundred men and women sitting before copper bowls, which contain the powder. These copper bowls are appropriately fixed for the purpose of filling the tubes with powder, which is done by means of small scoops, measuring 4 1/2 drachms each. The quantity will seem enormous to our military friends, but they must remember that the Turkish muskets have still the old flint
It almost sounds like a joke to say that any contractor should undertake to manufacture, and, out of his own establishment alone, to deliver in five months, thirty five million ball cartridges. Let us imagine that we are taking the reader through the busy scene into the midst of which he rather suddenly comes after passing the quiet village of Northfleet, on the south bank of the Thames, and a few minutes, as Londoners know, this side of Gravesend. The first point of attraction in the Works is the department where the bullets are cast and clipped. The portion of the premises set apart for this purpose is about a hundred feet long, and contains two large smelting furnaces, which feed fifteen others of smaller dimension. Here, in the furnaces 200 pigs of lead (100 cwt. to each divisional quantity) are daily used and transformed into bullets by the moulds. The moulds into which the molten lead is poured, contain, every mould eighteen bullet holes, and when the mould opens the bullets drop to the ground in clusters, like bunches of grapes. Troops of boys are ever busily employed in carrying these strings of bullets to the other part of the room, where sixty other boys are seated before bench- desks; these are so many clipping machines for disencumbering the bullets from that spray of lead by which on issuing from the moulds, they are still attached together. The bullets thus manipulated are then collected in barrels and subjected to a rotary motion by steam, to clean off the burr and to render them perfectly round. They are next carried across a yard into the main building. Here you behold sitting at benches from three hundred to four hundred young women whose occupation it is to roll on brass tubes, slips of cartridge paper, previously cut for that purpose by machines. The bullet, brought to them from the other building, is placed into the further end of the tubular paper, which is at that end pasted together so as to hold securely its metallic Ammunition Works at Northfleet - Ball Cartridge Making
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and steel locks, and are made with very long barrels. The length of the instrument requires a strong charge; and even further provision or allowance must be given for the waste which its structure notoriously entails. We noticed the extreme care taken in this room to prevent accidents with regard to the powder. Two foremen who have filled military capacities, are here expressly engaged to open the powder barrels, and to serve out their contents. The barrels contain one hundred pounds each, and are brought in proportion as they are needed, from the powder magazine, built purposely for the reception of these barrels, in a remote part of the premises. And even this magazine itself, which is literally a sunken pit under a chalk cliff, properly covered with a slate roof and constructed of boards fastened with copper nails even this magazine, we say, never contains more than a few barrels at a time, the great bulk of the powder being stored in a barge on the river. From the filling room the filled tubes are passed into another room for the purpose of being folded down. In this room are employed about 200 more young women, who by a peculiar process fold the bottoms of the tubes so as to prevent the powder from escaping. The piece folded down forms a lappet, which is bitten off by the soldier before loading his musket. Ten of the cartridges thus formed are placed in a paper case, and a hundred of these paper cases, or 1000 cartridges are packed in an oblong deal box. In this room the constant carriage to and fro of the paper cases containing filled paper tubes or completed cartridges forms a scene as busy as any beehive. We were much amused in another room, where these paper envelopes or cases are made by means of ingenious wooden forms. The operatives here are little girls under the age of twelve who earn each about 4s. 6d. a week and who never before earned anything in their lives. In this envelope room a cutting machine is worked to cut up the paper, and here also are stored many hundred reams of paper awaiting the knife. To reach next the packing room we passed through a yard where lay heaps of lead ready to be moulded into bullets. Thence we entered the packing room at the extremity of the premises adjacent to the wharf, on the banks of the river.
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Ammunition Works at Northfleet - Bullet Casting
More women are employed to sew a white canvas covering on the deal cases in which the cartridges are finally packed, those deal cases having been previously covered by a waterproof tarpaulin to preserve the cartridges from damp. Here also about twenty retired soldiers are employed to pack the cartridges in the deal cases, to nail them up and mark them with a “Crescent and a Star”. Four hundred of these packages are daily put on board a barge, ready to receive them at the wharf for Tilbury Fort. We have noticed the employment of paste instead of strings for the fastening of the tubular papers of the cartridge. It may be useful to indicate another peculiarity in the finishing off the deal boxes containing each a thousand of these cartridges, a peculiarity dictated by the caution of Messrs Schlesinger and Wells. At the top, where they must be opened on the field of battle they are not nailed down, as they are on the other three sides; but the lid is made to fit by compression; and then, in the lid, there is the convenience of a string handle, by which it can be lifted with a good pull out of the box. The hammering out of the nails hurriedly, in proximity to the foe if not in his presence, has before now blown a brave sergeant into the air, and sacrificed valuable ammunition and more valuable lives. We are far from wishing to disguise our admiration of the minutely forethoughtful spirit in which Messrs. Schlesinger and Co. conduct their whole manufacture. With our own inspection we were delighted. Good order reigns in the whole establishment; and we were especially struck and charmed with the great care taken to prevent acci-
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dents in the management of the powder. All the rooms are thickly strewn with sawdust, which is watered every morning for the purpose of rendering harmless any loose powder which may have been spilt upon the floor. Dozens of sacks of sawdust are daily used for this end. There is a large outbuilding where the deal cases are made, and where the clatter of the carpenters’ hammers quickly drives away an ordinary dilettante visitor. Here are piled hundreds of half finished cases, and thousands of pieces of wood ready cut, in sizes from the sawmills and desiccated by a patent process, awaiting their conversion into cases. Here also are heaps of iron (used to strengthen the cases), and a machine for cutting the lengths and for punching the holes. In another shed, we observed piles of empty powderbarrels: when full they would have sufficed to blow up Sebastopol. If but one in a thousand of the cartridges which will be delivered on the completion of this contract, takes effect, they will cost Russia 35,000 of her soldiers. The war is a calamity which the nation tried to avoid by prudence, But as the proverb says, it is an ill wind that blows nobody good, and the inhabitants of Northfleet, at least may felicitate themselves that, in so poor a village these enormous works have, in winter, brought abundance or relief to so many indigent families, and raised the siege of the workhouse. It is said that some of the inhabitants are apprehensive of danger from an explosion and, after the awful catastrophe at Newcastle, this apprehension is not surprising. But the two cases are not alike, At Newcastle many thousand tons of
1. The bullet mould open. 2. Packet of 10 Cartridges, as served out to the soldiers. 3. Cartridge. 4. Section of ditto.
explosive material were deposited, whereas at the factory of Messrs. Schlesinger and Wells there is never at any one time sufficient powder to do mischief beyond the sheds in which it is used, even in the hypotheses of an explosion. But from the careful distribution of powder in the copper bowls, and the many other precautions observed we should deem the risk of an explosion extremely remote. Even a pipe, a cigar, or a Lucifer match - are all strictly banned from the premises by strong prohibitory notices.
The Annual Northwest Cartridge Collectors Show Sept 6-8, 2007 Kootenai County Fairgrounds 4060 Government Way, Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83815 Set up: 2pm - 6pm Thursday Show Open: Friday 8am - 5pm, Saturday 8am to 12pm Trade Tables: $20 Display Tables: free Cartridges and related items only Show Chairman: R.E. Rainbolt, 1801 Gilbert Ave., Coeur d’Alene, Idaho 83815 (208) 664-9907
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Romanian Headstamps Since the Beginning of World War Two by Liviu Stoica - Addendum 3 The original article was published in Issue 433 (Sep/Oct. 2003) with addenda in Issues 434 and 440. An important Romanian infantry ammunition plant has been "U.M. Sadu" (Uzina Mecanica Sadu - "Mechanic Plant Sadu"). Established by a Royal Decree in 1939 as an "Army Pyrotechny", the facility started to manufacture infantry ammunition a few years after that. Located in the town of Bumbesti-Jiu on the River Jiu from Gorj county that lies in the south-western part of Romania, U.M. Sadu plant is wellknown for the variety of small arms ammunition manufactured there (5.45x39, 7.62x39, 7.62x54R, 7.65x17/.32 Auto, 9x18 Makarov, 9mm Parabellum). In the year 2002 Romania joined the NATO forces and U.M. Sadu plant also recently made 5.56x45 and 7.62x51 ammunition. Romanian cartridges with green lacquered steel cases having a double or triple element headstamp showing the factory codes "321", "322" and "323" (see Figure 1) were manufactured at U.M. Sadu plant which also made a variety of infantry weapons, hunting cartridges, detonators for the mining industry, pyrotechnical priming devices and products for the civil market (small capacity refrigerators).
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7.62x39
5.45x39
Figure 3. .22LR cartridge made at the U.M. Sadu Plant
Rimfire .22LR cartridges made at U.M. Sadu plant have knurled brass cases and lead bullets with the headstamp showing the letter "S" inside a hexagon with radiating lines (see Figure 3). Fifty .22LR cartridges (known in Romania as 5.6mm) are packed in a cardboard box with a white label. The ammunition maker is marked on the white label as "Uzina 321" (Plant 321) but it was corrected and updated with a ballpoint pen by the packer as "Uzina 322" (Plant 322). The white label also reads: "Cartridges for target shooting with Sinoxid, cal. 5.6mm, 50 rounds" and "Maximum range 1750 meters" (1.087 mile), "lot number 01", "packer number 1" and "Date of manufacture January- 2002" (see Figure 4). "Sadu" is the name of a river that springs from Parang Mountains and flows into the River Jiu at Bumbesti-Jiu. Today U.M. Sadu plant is known as "S.C. U.M. Sadu S.A." [NOTE: All the pictures and drawings used in this addendum were taken or made by the author and cannot be used without the author's permission.]
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Figure 1. Headstamps of cartridges made at the U.M. Sadu Plant in 1996-7 and 2003.
Figure 2 shows a label for "Primer with Sinoxid Cal. 6.05mm (0.238-inch) for Shotshells" made at U.M. Sadu plant in the year 1994 having the lot number 01. The box that contains 100 primers.
Figure 2. Primers made at the U.M. Sadu Plant in 1994
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Figure 4. .22LR box made at the U.M. Sadu Plant in 2002
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S-Ball Plastik - Czech Shotgun Slug by During the 1970s and 1980s in what is now the Czech Republic, a new type of shotgun slug was developed. This slug attained an almost dominant position, with other types of shotgun slugs being used, during that period, only in a limited way. For a long time, there was no Czech domestic production of shotgun slug projectiles. Those in use were either imported or hand-cast by individual users. In the period between WWI and WWII, the slug types most frequently used were the Brenneke and Ideal types. The first slug of native design and construction appeared c.1948, the creation of Victor Hampl, who worked as designer at Sellier & Bellot. He created, step by step, an entire series of lead bullets of different forms, which were stabilized on the “arrow principle” - all had, in the rear part of the slug, fins of different forms. Some of these types achieved serial production. In the year 1971, Sellier & Bellot began to supply the market with cartridges loaded with Plastic S-Ball slugs. The designation was derived from many former models of slug bullets, becoming the name “S-Ball Plastik,”, as shown on box labels. In common language, the designation “S-Ball” and/or also “Brenek” (spelled phonetically) became the popular title for whatever other slug bullets were in use. The designer of the specific projectile “S-Ball Plastik” was Sellier & Bellot’s employee Josef Hrdina. Initially these bullets were supplied under the marketing title “Model 71” and they were used for some time under that designation. The projectile is formed with an iron core, encapsulated within a plastic cover. This shotgun slug was introduced to serial production after trials of many different evolutionary types. These can be seen in Sellier & Bellot’s company museum that is located in a chateaux in the city of Vlasim (residential town of the firm Sellier & Bellot). Construction of these bullets can be seen and understood
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Slug in 16-gauge
from drawings and photography. The cylindrical iron core has deep striae around its perimeter, which facilitates fixing of the plastic cover onto the core. The cavity in the rear of the core has technological reasons, including lightening of the projectile. At the front of the core is the nose, which protrudes from the plastic cover. On the nose it is possible to see the plated iron core - for the longest production time made of white metal and by the close of production also yellow metal. The design of the plastic cover has made it possible to use the S-Slug projectile in barrels of any choke. The forms of both the metal core and the plastic cover have joined to produce a very well-stabilized projectile in flight. At the rear of the plastic cover is a hemispherical lightening cavity, that is linked with a central hole in the iron core. On the front surface of the plastic portion of the projectile are the raised markings “* SBALL * PAT.+CSSR”. These slugs were manufactured in 12 and 16 gauges. There was no factory manufacture of them in 20 gauge, although some individuals have altered the diameter of the 16 gauge slugs to work in 20 gauge cartridges. The slugs in 16 gauge were initially manufactured to the same longitudinal proportion as those of 12 gauge, with only the diameter reduced for use in the smaller 16 gauge. However, this design did not achieve the required ballistic parameters so, before long, the projectile was shortened as shown in the drawings. This design has been the standard supplied on the market for the rest of production. It is necessary to stress here that using slug bullets in Czechoslovakia as well as in the present Czech Republic is licensed only for the hunting of wild pigs. Other animals cannot be hunted with them. These cartridges, with a different crimp, were also used by Police for their high-penetration capability. However, this same highpenetration core, in the end, caused the ending of production here of ammunition loaded with this bullet, in the mid-1990s. The bullet is capable of complete penetration of police bulletproof vests. In the phase of development of this type of cartridge in the 1970s and 1980s, the relative safeness against possible misuse wasn’t at all taken into account.
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Left: Cut-away cartridge. Right: Illustration of the longest manufactured variant shells. Orange paper shells with white printing. [see also back page]
These projectiles have been loaded in shells with universal length of 67.5 mm (2.657 inches) and were used in a variety of cartridge cases. For a long time paper shells with no or relatively little printing on them were used. At a later time, plastic shells with various sorts of printing such as forms only noticing the S-Ball loading, or with a picture of a wild-boar on the case, were manufactured. Some these variants are shown below. It should be mentioned that this is not a full selection of all known variants. In 1992 cartridges marked “S-Ball Plastic Super” were marketed. These difference being merely the use of plastic shells and the thennew primer type V. The fruitfulness of the cartridge design shows in the fact that these bullet were often copied. For example, in Ukraine these bullets were factory-manufactured in Gauges 12, 16 and 20 and their production without any license from Sellier & Bellot continues till now. These bullets are different in some details and are not marked on the front as are those that were made by S&B. Hunting experience in Ukraine with these has been judged very positive and they are always in demand by both dealers and their customers. Sellier & Bellot packaged these shells over a long period of time in boxes of various designs. This is the packaging for 10 shells in which these cartridges were supplied for the longest time, to the trade. Colour is white and orange, with the wording, trade mark, calibre-designating numerals and silhouette cartridges in black. The cartridge head is illustrated in yellow. [see back page]
In 12-gauge the bullet weight is 380 +/- 11 grains and the weight of the iron core is 321 grains. In 16-gauge the bullet weight is 278 grains (first variant had 363 grain) and the weight of the core is 221 grains. Accuracy of the bullet and its hunting capabilities has been very good. Cartridges were popular with hunters and achieved wide use. Ballistic examination of this ammunition has been made several times, not only in Czech Republic, but also abroad. Results, of course, show minute differences according to the measurement methods, criteria classification and the circumstances of testing – temperature, altitude, etc. Below is some data shown for the 12 gauge version: Muzzle velocity 1542 fps, maximum range - 1720 yards. Impact velocity at the point of maximum range is 738 fps. Grouping of shots is an average 1.96 inch, with also some results with a dispersion of only 1.25 inch, all fired at a distance of 55 yards. These results are generally superior to 1-4: paper shells; 5-6: plastic. The 6th cartridge is the variant marketed as “S-Ball Plastic Super”. other known slugs such [shown in color on the back page] as the Brenneke.
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Collector Cartridge Prices Robert F. Cameron 14597 Glendale Ave., S.E. Prior Lake, MN 55372 Printed with permission of the WorldWide Gun Report, Aledo, IL. U.S. Centerfire Rifle (Part 2) This issue completes the section on U.S. Centerfire Rifle cartridge prices. A section on 45-70 cartridges is also included. We appreciate the assistance of Ray Giles in preparing this column. 44-50 Stevens ........................................ 40.00 44-60 Sharps & Remington bn, 1.9" ......... 20.00 44-65 Stevens Everlasting, 2-1/2" ............ 35.00 44-75 Ballard Everlasting ......................... 40.00 44-77 Remington Reloadable, 2-1/4" ..... 450.00 44-77 Sharps, WRACo HS ...................... 35.00 44-77 Sharps & Remington bn, 2-1/4" ...... 25.00 44-90 Sharps & Remington bn, 2-1/4" ...... 20.00 44-90 Sharps & Remington bn, 2 1/4" WRACo h/s ........................... 30.00 44-90 Sharps & Remington bn, 2-7/16" ............................................. 35.00 44-90 Sharps & Remington bn, 2-5/8" ...... 30.00 44-105 Sharps & Remington bn, 2-7/16" ............................................. 40.00 44-105 Remington Spl bn, 2-7/16", ppl, raised HS ................................... 60.00 44-(90-100)-2.6" Remington Straight, ppl ................................................... 30.00 44-95 What Cheer, ppl............................ 150.00 44-100 2-13/16" Ballard Everlasting, ppl . 25.00 444 Marlin ............................................... 1.00 45 Ballard, 2-13/16", Hart 2-pc case ......... 75.00 45 Peabody Carbine ................................ 12.00 45 Roumanian Peabody-Martini, US mfg . 40.00 45-50 Peabody Sporting, 1-1/2" ............... 10.00 45-60 Wesson Straight Target, 2" ............. 10.00 45-60 WCF, 1.9" ...................................... 6.00 45-60 WCF, raised HS .............................. 20.00 45-70 Van Choate, 2-1/4" ....................... 150.00 45-70 USG, 2.1" (Commercial) .................. 1.00 45-70 Multiball, UMC SH ......................... 5.00 45-70 Sharps, 2.1", ppl ........................... 40.00 45-75 WCF ........................................... 10.00 45-75 WCF, Farrington primed ................ 15.00 45-75 WCF, Milbank primed ................. 125.00 45-75 WCF, DCCo 99 45-75 .................... 25.00 45-75 WCF, DCCo 00 45-75 .................... 25.00 45-75 Sharps, 2.1", ppl ........................... 40.00 45-78 Wolcott ......................................... 70.00 45-80 Sharpshooter .................................10.00 45-82 WCF ............................................ 15.00
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Dale J. Hedlund Monticello, MN
45-85 Bullard, 2.1" ................................12.00 45-85 Bullard, wood rod dummy .............. 30.00 45-85 Bullard, raised HS .......................... 20.00 45-85 Marlin, WRACO 45-85 MAR HS ................. 45.00 45-85 Marlin, rsd UMC ........................... 50.00 45-85 Ward-Burton ................................. 75.00 45-85 WCF, 2.4" ................................... 12.00 45-85 WCF, DCCo 45-85 W .................... 15.00 45-85 WCF Express ................................. 15.00 45 Peabody-Martini ................................. 8.00 45-90 Sharps, 2.4", ppl............................ 35.00 45-90 WCF, 2.4" ...................................... 5.00 45-90 WCF, dummy, solid bullet .............. 15.00 45-90 WCF, DCCo 45-90 ......................... 12.00 45-90 WCF, HV ..................................... 10.00 45-90 WCF, HV, FMJ............................... 20.00 45-100 Ballard, 2-13/16",ppl ................... 25.00 45-100 Pacific Ballard Everlasting, 2-9/16" ............................................. 50.00 45-100 Rem. Creedmore, 2.6" .................. 35.00 45-100 Sharps, 2.4", Berdan, ppl ............. 25.00 45-100 Sharps, 2.6", raised HS ................. 75.00 45-100 Sharps, WRACo 45S 2-6/10" ...... 50.00 45-100 Sharps, WRACo board dummy .... 35.00 45 Brown Standard ................................. 85.00 45-105 Sharps, 2-7/8", Berdan, ppl ......... 30.00 45-105 Sharps, 2-7/8", WRACo 45S ........ 40.00 45-120 Sharps, UMC SH 45 - 3-1/4" ........ 85.00 45-125-550 Sharps Spl, 3-1/4" ................. 85.00 45-125 Winch. Express, UMC SH 45-125 .............................. 35.00 45-125 Winch. Express, WRACo 45 EX ................................ 50.00 450 Watts Magnum, SPEER 450 WATTS ... 5.00 458 Winchester Magnum .......................... 2.00 46 WCF M1886 ..................................... 750.00 460 Weatherby Magnum ............................ 4.00 50 Meigs, with patent date ........................ 65.00 50-50 Meigs Rifle, plain .......................... 35.00 50 Meigs Rimless .................................. 85.00 50-45 Carbine, 1.3" ................................. 7.00 50-70 Govt, lead ...................................... 5.00 50-70 Govt, Benet primed .......................... 8.00 50-70 Govt, Benet primed, steel anvil ....... 10.00 50-70 Govt, wood b’t dummy, copper cs ......................................... 75.00 50-70 Govt, rsd E.REMINGTON&SONS ............ 35.00 50-70 Govt, Farrington primed ................. 20.00 50-70 Govt, DCCo 50-70 ......................... 20.00 50-70 Govt, Milbank primed .................. 275.00 50-70 Govt, Rodman-Crispin patent ......... 65.00
John F. Kuntz 7850 County Road 6 Maple Plain, MN 55359 50-70 Govt, wood rod dummy, UMC ....... 15.00 50-70 Govt, buck & ball, UMC ................ 60.00 50-70 Govt, wood shot, UMC 50-70 .......... 7.00 50-70 Govt, shot - grey wad, WRACo ...... 5.00 50-70 Sharps, 1-3/4", No HS, ppl ............. 60.00 50-70 Sharps, 1-3/4", No h/s, ppl, by Sharps ......................................... 85.00 50-70 Sharps, 1-3/4", UMC HS, ppl ......... 50.00 50-70 Sharps, 1-3/4", WRACO HS,ppl .... 60.00 50-90-473 Sharps, 2-1/2", plain ............... 25.00 50-90-473 Sharps, 2-1/2", by Winchester . 40.00 50-90-473 Sharps, 2-1/2", UMC SH 50-2 1/2" .......................... 50.00 50-90 Sharps, Winchester board dummy .. 45.00 50-95 WCF, WRACo 50-95 WCF ........... 25.00 50-95 WCF, WRACo 50-95 EX ............... 20.00 50-95 WCF, shot, WRACo 50-95 EX ...... 15.00 50-95 WCF, UMCCo 50 EX .................... 15.00 50-95 WCF, CCC 50-95 .......................... 10.00 50-95 WCF, DCCo ................................... 75.00 50-95 WCF, ELEY 50 WIN ...................... 20.00 50-95 WCF, ELEY 50-95-300 .................. 50.00 50-100 Sharps, No HS .............................. 40.00 50-100-450 Winchester, WRACo 50-100-450 ........................ 30.00 50-100-450 Winchester, Shot, WRACo HS ..................................... 50.00 50-100 Winchester, fmj, WRACo 50-100-450 ........................ 40.00 50-105-450 WCF, board dummy ........... 750.00 50-110 WCF, proof-tinned, WRACo WHV ................................. 25.00 50-110 Express, WRACo 50-110 EX ...... 20.00 50-110 Express, shot, 50-110 EX ............. 20.00 50-110 Express, ELEY 50 WINCHESTER ................ 20.00 50-110-450, CCC 50-110 .......................... 8.00 50-115 Bullard, lead .............................. 15.00 50-115 Bullard, lead, copper tube ............ 20.00 50-120-473 Sharps Spl, Berdan ................ 50.00 50-140 Express, lead, WRACo 50-140 EX, Board Dummy ............................... 600.00 50-140 Express, lead, WRACo 50-140 EX ....................... 800.00 50-140 Sharps, ppl ............................... 125.00 50-140 Sharps, UMC SH 50 - 3-1/4" ...... 140.00 52-70 Sharps, 1.75", plain ..................... 300.00 54 Sharps .............................................. 60.00 58 Carbine, lead .................................... 15.00 58 Berdan Musket, lead ............................ 15.00 58 Berdan Musket, magnetic head ............ 30.00 58 Musket, Milbank primed ................... 300.00 58 Musket, Orcutt primed ......................... 50.00
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58 Musket, WRACo 58 MUSKET ........... 25.00 58 Musket, Martin “button” head ............. 60.00 58 Musket Serb. Peabody ........................ 50.00 58 Meigs Madrid ................................... 75.00 58 Rem. Carbine, copper case ................... 25.00 58 Roberts CF, lead, plain ........................ 20.00 58 Turkish Snider, lead ........................... 35.00 58 Dangerfield & Lefever ....................... 150.00 70-150 Winchester, thick rim ................ 1250.00 70-150 Winchester, board dummy, thick rim ...................................... 1000.00 70-150 Winchester, reproduction, thin rim ............................................ 50.00 75 Gatling, board dummy ....................... 250.00 1" Gatling, wood rod dummy ................ 2000.00 1" Gatling, lead, WRACo HS ................. 600.00 1" Gatling, lead, Benet primed ................ 150.00 1" Gatling, lead, Bar primed ................... 200.00 1" Gatling, Canister ............................. 275.00
45-70 1873 Inside Primed, NHS ........................... 5.00 1877 Inside Primed, NHS ........................... 5.00 1877 IP, RF 3 77 ................................. 200.00 1877 IP, other HS .................................. 25.00 1878 Inside Primed ................................ 15.00 1879 Inside Primed ................................ 20.00 1880 Inside Primed ................................. 5.00 1881 Inside Primed ................................. 5.00 1882 Inside Primed ................................. 5.00 1883 External Primed ............................... 5.00 1884 External Primed ............................... 5.00 1885 External Primed ............................... 8.00 1886 Esternal Primed ............................... 2.00 1887 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1888 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1889 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1890 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1891 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1892 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1893 External Primed ............................... 2.00 1894 External Primed ............................... 4.00 1895 External Primed ............................... 4.00
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1896 External Primed ............................... 4.00 1897 External Primed ............................... 4.00 1898 External Primed .............................. 10.00 1898 Smokeless Powder .......................... 15.00 U.S. Carbine, raised HS .......................... 125.00 U.S. Centennial 1776-1876 .................... 175.00 USCCO Thick Rim .................................. 10.00 USCCO Thin Rim .................................... 10.00 R/F 3-77-405 Berdan ............................. 200.00 R/F 4-77-405 Berdan ............................... 35.00 R/F 9-78-405 Boxer ................................ 20.00 R/F 7-79-500 Boxer ................................ 20.00 R/F 9-79-500 Boxer ................................ 12.00 R/F 10-79-500 Boxer ............................... 12.00 R/F 1-81-405 Boxer ................................ 10.00 R/F 1-81-500 Boxer ................................ 10.00 R/F 4-81-500 ......................................... 10.00 R/F 6-81-500 ......................................... 10.00 R/F 1-82-500 ........................................... 5.00 C/F 2-82-405 ......................................... 10.00 R/F 2-82-500 ........................................... 8.00 R/F 3-82-500 ......................................... 15.00 R/F 4-82-500 ......................................... 10.00 R/F 5-82-500 ......................................... 15.00 R/F 6-82-405 ........................................... 5.00
Misc. Inside Primed 45-70 Multiball, NHS .............................. 20.00 45-70 Phoenix Multiball (paper sabot, NHS) .......................... 50.00
Sharpshooter 2.4" Mod.81 R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F R/F
4-80-500 ......................................... 25.00 6-80-500 ......................................... 25.00 9-80-500 ......................................... 25.00 3-81-500 ........................................... 8.00 4-81-500 ........................................... 5.00 6-81-500 ........................................... 5.00 9-82-500 ........................................... 5.00 3-83-500 ........................................... 8.00 6-83-500 ........................................... 5.00 4-84-500 ........................................... 5.00
Military Loadings - UMC Contract R/B 9-78-405 or 500 ................................ 8.00 R/B 10-78-405 or 500 ............................... 8.00 R/B 45-70-405 or 500 (large HS letters) ..... 5.00 R/B 45-70-405 or 500 (small HS letters) .... 8.00 R/B 45-70, 2.5" Gatling Blank .................. 20.00
WRACo Contract R/W (Date)-405 ....................................... 8.00 R/W (Date) blank ..................................... 5.00
U.S.C.Co. Contract R/L (date) Thin Rim ............................... 10.00 R/L (date) Thick Rim ............................... 8.00
Morse Patent Mod.’86-87 R/F 3-86-500 ......................................... 50.00 F 8-86-500 ............................................ 30.00 F 9-86-500 ............................................. 15.00 F 10-86-500 ........................................... 10.00 F 11-86-500 ........................................... 10.00 F 1-87-500 ............................................... 7.50 F 2-87-500 ............................................... 7.50
Ceremonial & Function Dummies USC 405-2.1" Ball ................................ 175.00 USC 405-1.6" ........................................ 75.00 RW 4-83-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00 RW 9-83-405 & 500 FMJ ......................... 15.00 RW 9-84-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00 RW 10-86-405 FMJ ................................. 15.00 RW 8-88-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00 RW 1-90-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00 RW 2-90-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00 RW 1-91-405 FMJ ................................... 15.00
Frankford Arsenal Blanks F 10-80 through F 11-82 ............................ 5.00 F 3-81 through F 12-82 ............................. 5.00 All others ................................................. 2.00
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Benchrest Cartridges - Something Old, Something New by Ray Meketa Something Old
L-R: 219 Gipson Wasp, 219 Gipson Wasp (30-06 Rim), 6x47 H&H, The Eraser
219 Gipson Wasp Gunsmith Vernor Gipson's version of the Wasp cartridge. 1.715" CL, 28-degree shoulder. Used primarily by shooters using Gipson's custom made rifles.
219 Gipson Wasp - 30-06 Case Head Cartridge rim turned to .470" for rifles with '06 bolt face.
Something New
L-R: 30 PI - III, 30 PI - II, 30 U Name It, 6 SMC
30 PI - III A Hunter Benchrest (HBR) cartridge. 30 WSM brass, 1.8" CL, 40-degree shoulder, 60-grain capacity. Has potential as a possible long-range cartridge.
30 PI -II HBR cartridge. 30 WSM brass, 1.4" CL, 40-degree shoulder, 46-grain capacity. Will probably be seen in the new WSSM brass when high quality cases become available.
6 x 47 H&H
30 U Name It
Standard cartridge but with 40-degree shoulder. Not much else that could be done to this diminutive cartridge. H&H stands for the "designers" Harvey and Henrikson, not Holland and Holland.
Another HBR cartridge. 30 SAUM brass, 1.5" CL, 30degree shoulder, 50-grain capacity, rim turned to 308W size. Still under development, not yet named. WSSM brass would make a better case.
The Eraser
6 SMC
6mm caliber using 220 Swift case with 30-degree shoulder, 1.5" CL. Was a varmint cartridge but was a grandparent of the 6 PPC so deserves recognition.
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Some shooters call this the 6mm Smack. 30 SAUM brass, 1.8" CL, futuristic convex shoulder. Designed as a long range cartridge but its potential as an HBR round is obvious. Touted to be the ballistically ideal capacity and shape for 6mm with heavy bullets at long range. T his and other SMC calibers are still under development.
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Welcome New Members (since February 1) Jerry Kowalsky, 3943 Irvine Blvd, #91, Irvine, CA 92602
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Letters to the Editor From Dimi Goulas, Switzerland Ref: Journal #451, Pg 48. Swiss 4-round Charger This Swiss clip was made for the International Military Match with ordnance rifles. Since the Swiss K31 rifle (Karabiner Model 1931) for the GP11 (Gewehr Patrone 1911) cartridge 7.5 x 55 has a load capacity for 6 rounds, and for the rapid fire in the military competition you need 10 rounds, this 4-round clip facilitated the quick loading in the K31 with the 6-round and the 4-round clips. This started in 1936 and ended in 1962, when more appropriate rifles like the Standard Rifle, with a magazine capacity of 10 rounds were allowed by the C.I.S.M. (Compétition International de Sport Militer) in the strict military competition. So clip became obsolete. It is though a very good collector’s item. At right and below a typical HS and a cartridge. Note the grease/wax on the bullet is not like the normal GP11, it covers 2/3 of the bullet, not just the case-mouth and part of the bullet.
From Pete deCoux, Arizona Ref: “.30 Blake” Box A “.30 Blake” box. It is (slightly soiled) textured, light tan paper with pencil. The box is by U.M.C.Co., and unmarked other than the pencil. If we knew when U.M.C. used this textured paper box we could probably date the box, as I think it was used only for a reasonably short time. Perhaps a reader knows? Box is empty, & doesn’t appear to have ever had any other labeling. Wear marks in the lid somewhat closely match the size head of a “.30 Blake” if the rim bevel is taken into account, and I see bullet nose marks in the bottom which would seem to conform to those a “Blake” or Krag-style bullet would make. The exterior soil marks match the line of the unsoiled (found under the top) when the box has “.30 Blake”
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rounds in it. So it appears to have originally held rounds similar to a “.30 Blake’s” overall length. This “Blake” box, by U.M.C. Co., is of a short lived / used hard paper material, with a light tan colored, textured outer, and inner surface. Perhaps manufactured by molding and pressing, and not seen, by me, on any other ammo makers boxes. Another similar (in construction/material/color) empty box, we are aware of, by U.M.C. Co. for the .25-36-86 Marlin Smokeless Short Range round has a 7/8" x 7/8", red and black printed white “UMC SMOKELESS” sticker on the back, showing the logo in the form of a shield. I understand this sticker was also only used for a short time. (See The .22 Box, Volume 22, No. 2. pg. 7 for this sticker, and no reply, as yet, from Rich about the time of that box). This Marlin box has an under label for the .25-36-117 Marlin Smokeless round. So the U.M.C. Co. Marlin box is a contemporary, and I thought that this box might be helpful in dating the “30 Blake” box, by knowing when these Marlin load(s) were offered, or the “SMOKELESS” sticker was used. HELP ? So I’m trying to find out if this could perhaps be another “.30 Blake” box, or perhaps a variation of the box as recalled by Graham Burnside, but without the printed label which could, or could not, have been added for convenience by the dealers, McDaneld & Wheeler (See the Blake article in the IAA, March 2004, issue 436, pg. 34). Knowing I’ll very probably prove nothing, but by tying the box time line, to the cartridge time line something might be added to our knowledge. Plus the box material might help others in dating other U.M.C. Co. boxes. I’m just fishing for the information, that this might be a possible .30 Blake variation box, and thought a time line of the box material might be helpful, knowing the pencil “30 Blake” could very well not be contemporary to the box.
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From Lew Curtis, Georgia: an interesting letter about German Caseless Cartridges
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From Dave Birkin, Wales Ref: Journal #446, Pg 46. 57mm Littlejohn Further to the very informative data that Paul Smith kindly included in November/December 2005 Journal I eventually managed to get hold of a 6pr 6cwt case. The mystery of the 60mm rear skirt on the projectile is solved. Although the round is referred to as a 57x512, the case mouth is in fact 60mm in diameter to accommodate the driving band on the projectile that, with the HE projectile fit partly inside the case. The attached photograph shows the complete 6pr 6cwt round next to a 6pr 7cwt round for scale. NOTE that the rear skirt of the projectile would fit inside the case but the photograph shows it resting on top, it is a tight fit (unfired case) and I don’t want to damage the rear of the projectile by forcing it in. [see also back cover]
a picture. When this one was made he used Bertram’s 505 brass but is getting properly headstamped brass from Otto Planyavsky Munitions (OPM) in the future. Bullet dia.: Case Length: Rim dia.: Head dia.: Neck dia.: O/A length:
9.48mm (0.373 ins) 76.25mm (3.002 ins) 16.21mm (0.638 ins) 16.2mm (0.637 ins) 10.25mm (0.404 ins) 94.23mm (3.710 ins)
From Dr. J.R. Crittenden Schmitt, Maryland Ref: Journal #454, Pg 49. Russian Trench Art I have two of these which were given to me by the director of a Soviet museum when I was in the SU for the Smithsonian. I showed them on the IAA Forum earlier this year and recalled the story (they were used in medal ceremonies - medal at the bottom of the tankard and vodka to the top. Drink your way to the medal). A Russian replied that these are current-day souvenirs being made and sold in Moscow. I have had mine since the early 1970s so they certainly are not current. Mine are both made from FAmade 40mm BOFORS Lend-Lease cases dated in the 1940s. Those shown are also 40mm Bofors cases.
Comment from Mike Carrick: I bought mine in 1990 and never saw another for sale at the flea markets from 1990 to 1997 during which time I was there ten visits.
From Martin Andrew, Australia Ref: New Chinese Ammunition
From Will Reuter, South Africa Ref: Journal #454, Pg 52. Fred Wells .505/.375 It looks like, yet again, the wheel is being re-invented. A local fellow (to South Africa) has developed a 505 necked down to 375. He is Jacobus FOURIE. He is calling his caliber the .375 Oryxx. It was supposed to be the .377 Oryxx but the name got mixed up at Clymer when they made the reamer for him and the rifle is also marked .375. Attached is
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1. 14.5mm Anti-Aircraft Machine Gun and Ammunition China has developed a lightweight 14.5mm anti-aircraft machine gun designated the QJG02. It has a rate of 600rpm and an effective range of 2,000m, however its effective rate of fire is 100rpm. It was introduced with two new 14.5x114mm rounds, the DGJ02 APDS-T and the DGE02 APHEI-T. The DGJ02 uses a green-coloured sabot pro-
jectile with a 45-gram tungsten penetrator using a dual colour tracer to aid ranging. From the JQG02 it has a muzzle velocity of 1,250m/sec and is quoted as being able to penetrate 20mm of armour plate set at an angle of 500 at 1000m. The DGE02 cartridge weighs between IAA Journal Issue 455, May/Jun ‘07
SLICS 2006 175 and 188grams. At 800m it is quoted as having a 90% chance of being able to penetrate 15mm of armour plate at 300. When the incendiary material explodes there are over 20 pieces between 1.2mm and 2mm. 2. 5.8x21mm Pistol Cartridges The 5.8x21mm DAP92 cartridge is 33.5mm in length, weighs 7.5grams complete with the projectile weighing 3.1grams and 16.3mm long. The quoted muzzle velocity is 390m/sec. At 50m it can penetrate a steel helmet or 50mm of wood. There is also a subsonic round, the Courtesy Dr. J.R. DCV05, available in 5.8x21mm but I can- Crittenden Schmitt not find any details other than it would be 33.5mm in length and that is effective range when fired from the QCW05 5.8mm Silenced Sub-machine Gun is 100 metres.
which is obviously what this caliber is. The second scan shows a 12-gauge box: Vulcano is obviously the trade name of the shotshells and they were manufactured by INDÚSTRIA METALÚRGICA GAZOLA in CAXIAS DO SOL (there is another Caxias in Brazil, so they have a “Caxias in the South” to differentiate between the two). [see also on back page]
3. Chinese S&W Model 10 Revolver and Ammunition The new Chinese police revolver being introduced into the Public Security Bureau is a butchered copy of the Smith and Wesson (S&W) Military and Police/Model 10 revolver. The major differences are an enclosed ejector rod, ramp front side and a rear sight, which the S&W Model 19, an improved version of the Mode1 10 incorporated. There two types of service ammunition identified and the best description would be 9x19mm Rimmed to replicate the old .38 S&W cartridge. The first is a duplex rubber round which looks the same size and shape as the old 38/200 and designed for internal security use during riots. This is 30mm long and weighs in at 12.6 grams. The rubber projectiles will be low velocity otherwise they would foul the rifling. The second cartridge is a copper-jacketed semi-wadcutter round. Both have a heavy roll crimp at the mouth of the case. 4. 9x19mm Cartridges There is a new Chinese 9x19mm low impact and wounding cartridge with the projectile weighing 7 grams with a muzzle velocity of 378 m/sec. The cartridge is 29.9mm long overall. The 9x19 mm DAP92A round is 29.95mm long with its 8-gram projectile being 19mm long. With a muzzle velocity of 360m/sec it also can penetrate 50mm of timber at 50m also, but the type of timber is not disclosed.
From Will Reuter, South Africa Ref: Journal #454, Pg 46. 9.1x40R Attached are 2 scans, one from the RWS/Utendoerffer catalogue of about 1898 showing a 40-gauge shotshell case,
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From Jose Luis Rubio, Uruguay Ref: Early Shotshell ID Required. A close friend and new collector came to me with an iron primed shell, for classification. The shell has some corrosion and is headstamped DELMARD No PATENT 12. Can you help, as I could not find it in my files.
Jim Buchanan’s response - an English patent abridgment from October 24, 1879.
From Don MacChesney, Missouri Ref: Journal #454, Pg 47. 9mm Nagant Designation. The “Pistolet” referred to on the box is the Nagant doublebarrel rolling-block constabulary pistol, M1877. I was recently able to cast the chambers and slug the bores of pistol number 169x. It is in excellent interior condition, so the measurements are reliable. The bore diameter is .3555" 9mm. The groove diameter is .3685" - 9.3mm. The chamber length is not well defined, as is appropriate for a paperpatched bullet, but is about .870" - 22.1mm. The breech can be closed on the short version of the 9.4mm Dutch cartridge. However, the Dutch bullet is too fat by .016" - 0.4mm. [Editor’s note: thanks, Don, that addresses the “Pistolet”. Now can anyone tell us why it is “99”?]
From Ray Meketa, Arizona Ref: Wartime .22 Bullets. Another great box of “Wartime” .22 bullets. These are made from fired copper cased .22 LR and have the Remington “U” on the base. Tan label over a green box.
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From Liviu Stoica, Tennessee Ref: 20 x 138B Finnish Headstamp. This picture shows the impressed headstamp markings for a brass shell case 20x138B Long Solothurn made in Finland. The belted bottle-necked case with a length of 138mm (5.433inch) has a rim diameter of 26.9mm (1.059inch). The round was used by the Finnish 20mm Lahti Mod.39 antitank rifle and by the German antiaircraft 2cm FlaK 30-38. Starting from the 9 o'clock position and going clockwise, the headstamp markings are: "E4", circle with two crossed arrows, "20/40", "T" and "41". I assume this 20x138B brass shell case from Finland was manufactured in 1941 ("41") at Tikkakoski ("T") arsenal. I do not know the meaning of the other headstamp markings. Anyone who can help? Note that a small oval mark overlaps the number 2 from the "20/40" stamp. Around the 12 o'clock and 7 o'clock positions the markings left on this shell case head during the extraction and ejection process are clearly visible.
in place by a dimple. The powerful 30x155B round was used by the Russian 30mm NR-30 aircraft gun which had been introduced in mid-1950s. A gas-operated gun, the NR30 (Nudelman & Richter) with a high rate of fire (approx. 800-900 rds/min) was used by some Soviet and Chinese aircraft. The Russian 30x165mm rimless round with a 164.8mm (6.488inch) long bottlenecked thick zinc-clad steel case has a rim diameter of 39.9mm (1.570inch). The impressed headstamp markings are: "581-87" (shell case lot number 581 and two digit date 87 for the year of manufacture) over "184-3" (State factory number 184, Zelenodolsk Factory Associates and quality control stamp 3). The KV-3 percussion primer with a diameter of 10.5mm (0.413inch) is used by the 30x165mm rounds fired at light-armored targets by the 2A42, 2A72 and 2A38M 30mm automatic guns. Note: 30x165 rounds having electrical primers are used by Navy and aircraft 30mm guns.
“HOW IT ALL STARTED” The cowboy hero and his grizzled sidekick came riding over the hill and discovered a poor homesteader with a long arrow sticking out of him, lying beside a burned-out wagon. Silently, the sidekick dismounted, pulled out the arrow, and examined it slowly, end to end.
From Liviu Stoica, Tennessee Ref: Russian 30mm Headstamps
“Cheyenne” he said finally. “How do you know for sure?” the hero asked, leaning forward.
30x155B
30x165
The Russian 30x155B round with a 154.5mm (6.082inch) long belted bottlenecked brass case has a rim diameter of 39.8mm (1.566inch). Clockwise from the 9 o'clock position, the impressed headstamp markings are: "271" (lot number) over "K" (Cyrillic letter code "K" for the year of shell case manufacture 1956), various Cyrillic letters and "184" (shell case maker's code, Zelenodolsk Factory Associates) over "0" (quality control stamp). The KV-30 percussion primer screw (marked in Cyrillic "KB-30") with 3 wrench holes has a diameter of 16.5mm (0.649inch) and it is locked
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“Well,” the grizzled old timer began. “Yah see this here little circle on the end, with the C.A. in it?” “Well,” he drawled. “Thet stands fer Cheyenne Arsenal. “Thet 66 is fer 1866, and thet H./M. means fer Homesteader or Match use.” As they rode into the sunset , the hero mused, “I always wondered how you could do that.” THINGS HAVEN’T BEEN THE SAME SINCE! Provided by John Kuntz (who lives in Cheyenne country?)
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Black Mesa Express Ammunition - compiled by Lew Curtis The Black Mesa Rifle Company was founded in 1992 by Ronald Brian McDaniels in Kenton Oklahoma. Mr. McDaniels fell in love with the land while flying over the Black Mesa area of Oklahoma on a trip home from Alaska. Black Mesa is the highest point in Oklahoma and was the inspiration for naming the company and remains a symbol of beauty combined with rugged resilience that is expected of Black Mesa Rifles. Mr McDaniels began his early life as a machinist instructor in the military, later he became a pilot and a Professional Engineer. He spent time as an Alaskan bush pilot with extensive target shooting and hunting experience. In 1992 Mr McDaniels began designing and building firearms and ammunition in Kenton, Oklahoma. In 1993 he introduced the .375 Black Mesa Express rifle and cartridge. The cartridge was based on the .404 Jeffrey necked down to .375 and with the rim turned down. The cartridge propelled a 300 gr bullet at about 3000 ft/sec with an energy of roughly 6200 ft lbs. A short time later he introduced the .338 Black Mesa Express. These cartridges were in a class of their own until 1999 when Remington released their line of Ultra Magnum cartridges. At about this same time, Mr McDaniels introduced the 6.5mm and 7mm Black Mesa Express cartridges. Mr McDaniels continued to build and customize firearms until 2004 when he retired due to health problems. During 2004 he sold the Black Mesa Rifle Company to Craig Smith. The sale included an apprenticeship agreement to ensure the quality and technology of the Black Mesa products would continue to meet the absolute standards established by Mr
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McDaniels. Mr Smith now operates the company which is located at 600 Hamilton St, Mason City, Nebraska 68855. He is continuing to improve and upgrade the products of the company. The information above was kindly provided by Mr Craig Smith. Illustrated are the Black Mesa cartridges, headstamps and box labels. The cases are manufactured by MAST Technologies.
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.375 Black Mesa
.338 Black Mesa
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From Zac Weighman, Michigan. Above: Turkish Snider box, tan label, box contents unknown Below: .303 British packet. Tan paper wrapper with red lettering. Rounds headstamped MAXIM 1895
From Terry Warnock, Australia, a J. Paxton Moir Shot bag.
From Mark Newcomer, Maine. A nice round-cornered UMC box. Red UMC logo on off-white box. Contents unknown
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From Woodin Laboratory Reference Collection. Photo labeled: “German small caliber taper-bore ammunition. left to right: 14/9mm; 14/9mm MG131; 13/?; .280 Ultra H.V. Halger”
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WANTED: .44 Henry Cartridges. Any raised headstamp or any no headstamp. Also any cartridge with “US” headstamp. Also any empty boxes. Will buy outright or trade. I have a large collection of .44 Henrys and other cartridges, many rare. Paul Bennett, 2400 Blossom St., Columbia, SC 29205 803-799-4323
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For Sale: After 56 years as a general car-
FOR SALE or TRADE: 50 Cal BMG
tridge collector, I am beginning to liquidate my collection. I am now offering European sporting and some military cartridges. All are single specimens. There are many semirare and rare items. Prices range from $1 to $300. Eventually I will publish a list, but for now, please send your want list to John Heyman:
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(12.7x99), new revised list, of over 150 cartridges, from around the world. All reasonably priced. Send a self-addressed stamped business size envelope to: Ron Fuchs, 5118 W. Windrose, Glendale, AZ 85304, 602-938-0875,
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Early Percussion Primer Identification: Here for the first time is a manual to aid in the identification of early primers with color illustrations or patent drawings/text of 80 percussion pellets, powder, etc., 34 percussion tubes and 83 (The “up-date” has now been expanded to 90) percussion cap designs. This manual has been compiled using a cataloguing system that can be expanded and new discoveries will be sent to subscribers when warranted, as new variations are recorded. Included also is an article on the history of percussion priming development and a growing bibliography of priming related books and articles. Fiftyfour custom binders were produced; only 17 copies (with current up-date) remain. Priced with postage paid at US$70.00 domestic; US$80.00 overseas air; Cdn$80.00 (GST/post included). S. J. Gooding, P.O. Box 70, Alexandria Bay, NY 13607-0070; or P.O. Box 390, Bloomfield, Ont. Canada K0K 1G0. Phone 613-393-2980; Fax 613393-3378; E-mail
[email protected]. [457]
FOR SALE or TRADE: 5.56x45 (.223
HELP! Please make a lad’s Holiday Sea-
REM), list includes over 800 different cartridges from around the world, even rare and hard to find rounds, all reasonably priced, will also sell one of each as a starter collection if interested at a discount, for 40 page list send $1.25, Ron Fuchs, 5118 W. Windrose, Glendale, AZ 85304, 602-9380875,
[email protected] [457,w]
son complete: I need a cartridge box to fill an empty spot in a pistol case. The case is cut out for a round-cornered box of .50 .450 Revolver or .450 Colt cartridges. A full or partial box, an empty box, or even just a box top would do. Circa 1900 box preferred, but not necessary. I will even pay in fresh, appreciating Euros (instead of old, depreciating dollars) if you like, for this trivial bauble which would hardly be missed from your collection. Peter DeRose, pderose @ crocker.com, (413 584-3820) [456,w]
Advertisements Advertisements in this section are FREE to members and will be run for four consecutive issues. Advertisements by non-members will be at the rate of $0.50 per word per issue. The number in square brackets after your ad is the last issue in which it will appear unless you let us know that you wish to continue it. The”w” indicates you have asked for it to be included on the IAA web-site.
INFORMATION WANTED: I am compiling a checklist of all known 8-gauge and 14-gauge cartridges as part of an article for the IAA Journal. Please send me the details of any 8 or 14 ga. cartridges in your collection. I am interested in all variations including, pinfire, sporting, industrial, special purpose, brass, paper or plastic, NPE or loaded. Also need copies of any catalog pages which list 8- or 14-gauge. As I already have some catalog pages, please contact me for a list of what I currently have. I prefer email to
[email protected] if possible. If not, send information to Ron Merchant, 1023 Hickory St., Lansing, MI 48912. Phone (517) 267-1980 [458,w]
WANTED: Empty or inert German Flak 41 88mm or any other German 88mm rounds. Send price and condition. I prefer email to
[email protected] if possible. If not, send information to Ron Merchant, 1023 Hickory St., Lansing, MI 48912. Phone (517) 267-1980 [458,w].
Wanted: Herter’s, Savage, Browning, headstamps. One of a kind collector. Shipping to a ND address. Victor Trautman
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Wanted: 40-90 and 44-75 Ballard Everlasting cases made by Geo. Hart. Howard Hoovestol, 4131 Selkirk Road, Bismarck, ND 58503 (701) 221-2669
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WANTED: 9x19mm (9mm Luger) box, full, partial or empty, for Polish VISRADOM pistol as issued from 1936-1939 to the Polish military. Richard Atkinson, 620-231-9256
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FOR SALE: Back issues of the IAA Journal and ECRA. Have IAA from May/ June 1998 to present, issues 401-451. ECRA May 1998 to Nov 2006, issues 396-499. All are in like new condition. Offers? If you buy all will include a copy of the Pete DeCoux Auction Catalog of my collection in 1998. Please send offers to Alan Merriman
[email protected] [456,w] Wanted: Back issues 356 thru 395 of the ICCA (IAA) Journal. Vernon Knapp, email:
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WANTED: Mark VII FMJ (.311) bullets. About 500 for a replica of the 7.65mm M1914 Argentine Match cartridge. Must have cupro-nickel jacket. Stephen L. Fuller, Apt #1, 508 S. Willard Ave., San Jose, CA 95126-3333 [456]
Wanted .577 Snider Cartridges. singles, boxes/packages - empty or full. Manufacturing tools, etc. Want all loadings, variations, sporting, military, contractors contemporary and modern. Excellent trades in most fields. John A. Belton, Box 425 Merrickville, Ontario Canada K0G 1N0 Tel: 613-926-2469 email:
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Wanted: Shot concentrators, boxes,
WANTED: 58 Cal. Roberts cartridge
WANTED: Artillery rounds. 12.7x104
advertising, or catalog pictures of same. Contact Gary Muckel 6531 Carlsbad Drive Lincoln, NE 68510 402-483-2484
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or empty case. Gordon Thruston, 138 Shannon Lake Cir., Greenville, SC 29615 864288-1588
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rimless, 12.7x110 French, 12.7x108 Rimmed Russian, 16mm VEGA.The following cases: 85mm Russian, 88mm German, 100mm Russian. Felipe Gardyn, 1703 S.W. 10th St., Miami FL 33135-5103 [455]
Wanted: Photo or photocopy of old WANTED: “HOXIE” boxes, full, partial, or empty. Mike Cobine, 2870 Kings Valley HWY. Dallas, OR 97338, PH: 503623-6718, E-mail:
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Chinese manuscript by Wu Ching Tsug Yao from ca. 1044 a.d. (First printed reference on blackpowder). André Johansen, Lisa Sass Gata 14, 42253 Gothenburg, Sweden. [456]
WANTED: “Special Purpose” .22 to
Looking for .450 Revolver Ctgs. (not
.50 BMG “color tipped” rounds, (avoiding most blanks, wood & paper bullets) but to include other specialized rounds; A/P, KTW Teflon variations (seek KTW rifle rounds), A/P saboted rounds, tracers, incendiary variants, flechettes, all flares, “less lethal” items bean bag, rubber ball, buck, baton, teargas variations, launching cartridges. Misc. items on “to find list” (the more specialized the better); 7.92 German wire defense load, military CADS (cartridge activated devices), Hollifield Dotter (seek .30 Krag, .38 short, 45 ACP) I have good special purpose trade stock. Pepper Burruss Cell/ desk 920-660-7704, e-photos welcomed,
[email protected] [455,w]
.455s) for my collection. I have a good selection of trade items in various calibers and categories. Send me a list of what you have. Chris Punnett, 996248 RR#1, Mansfield, Ontario L0N 1M0, Canada.
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FOR SALE: Large quantity of cartridge/ gun reprint advertising. Includes a complete set of the Peters/Remington calendar reprints from the Country Gallery starting with the first Peters in 1975 thru this year’s. All are in good to excellent condition but they were used and have only December left from the calendar pad. Also several Winchester calendar reprints. Have the large “Double W” Winchester Cartridge Board print and it is framed. Also 2 smaller Winchester board prints. Have the 3 broadsheets c1880 that were reprinted by Jim Tillinghast - UMC, USCCO, WRACO and these are framed. Also numerous paper/cardboard/tin poster reprints. And several early 1980s Remington Calendars sold by Kansas Cartridge Collectors and the 2000 New Zealand Cartridge Collectors Club calendar. Would like to sell as a group and am open to offers as I have no idea what this is worth. The framed items are large and are not shippable in the frames. Contact me for more info if interested. Alan Merriman
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For Sale: American brass shotshells. New list, new items, new prices. Send for list. Don Herbers, 700 E. Marlin, McPherson, KS 67460 [455]
Box of red-white-blue Peters 22 RF Magnum. Excellent condition. Trade for Japanese 9mm Revolver and 7.7 (.303 Brit.) Japanese dummies. George Koller, 1265 Elm, No 22, Clarkston, WA 99403 (509758-3782) [455]
Wanted: 22 boxes singles or collections. Dave Nelson 320-763-4987 Evenings or
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Wanted: 2 stripper clips for the RothSteyr Repeating Pistol, Model 1907. Call or e-mail me with you price. Will Adye-White (905) 459-3080,
[email protected] [455]
From the recent sale of Winchester30-06 - The Book: Hardbound, 384 pages, hundreds of quality illustrations covering the history, development and production of the .30-06 in 48 countries. Organized for easy reference. Price $59 including S&H (overseas: price on request). Available from the author: Chris Punnett, RR#1, Mansfield, Ont. L0N 1M0, Canada [455]
WANTED: Following R.S.A. Cartridges Collectors Association back issues: 1 through 148, and 151, 152, 153, 154, 170, 171, 179, 190, 200, 201. Contact Eduard Peris,
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WANTED: the following rifle cartridges: .30 Adolph, .303 Elliot, .44-90-550 Remington Straight, .22/30-06 Duplex, .27/ 7.62NATO, .276 Pedersen Colt Industries 7.62mm/cal.220 Salvo Squeeze bore, 9.53x76mm Multi flechette, 335 HalgerSupermagnum, 7.62x62 Sjogren, 9.3x86mm, 7.62x40 IWK wildcats. Felipe Gardyn, 1703 S.W. 10th St., Miami FL 33135-5103 [455]
FREE. Complete directory to the Robert T. Buttweiler auctions. Does NOT include prices realized. Email only. Contact John Witzel at
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Western (US Repeating Arms Co), all the action-proving, shotshell and cartridges, now available. Boxes sealed from the 1930’s to closing 2006. All are mint, + single cartridges from loose boxes. This is the largest group of cartridges, dummies, proof and regular ammo I have ever seen. Send an SASE for a list, or call for more details 401-728-8976. John Lussier, Apt 4, 201 Reservoir Ave., Lincoln, RI 028653331 [445]
LINKS: MG disintegrating belt links bought, sold, traded, identified, appraised. Ted Bradstreet, PO Box 182, Albion, ME 04910-0182 (207)437-9378
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Wanted: Back issues of the Cartridge Trader, Jan 1966 through Dec 1975 (#’s 123-240) E. Wayne Martin, 14600 W. Whispering Wind Trail, Surprise, AZ 85374 [455]
For Sale or Trade: Lots of wildcat, commercial and military cartridges for sale or trade. For those outside U.S., many are available with inert filler or as dummies. Email
[email protected] for listing. [456,w]
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Wanted: English Cartridge Boxes. Full or empty. Pre-1917 - pistol only. Rimfire: .22, .230, .297, .300, .320 (short & long), .380 (short & long), .41 Der.. Centerfire: .320 (short & long), .380 (short & long),, .41 Der. & Short, .45 Long Colt, .450, .455 (short & long case), .476, .2520, .32-20, .38-40, .44-40. Automatic: .25 Auto, .32 Auto, .380 Auto, .38 Auto, .45 Auto, .455 Auto, and all Winchester rifle calibers. C.R. Ford, 5518 So. Lewis Ave., Tulsa, OK 74105.
[email protected] (918-743-4056) [457,w]
For Sale: UMC hollow dummies, 4590, 45-70-500, 45-70-405 flat bullet, 4565, 40-82, 41 L.C. All in excellent condition, no dents. Would like to sell as agroup, but will sell individually. Prices are negotiable. John Lussier, 201 Reservoir Ave., #4, Lincoln, RI 02865-3331 (401-728-8976) [455]
Wanted: 10-gauge Winchester Metal Lined Shotshell H/S “Winchester No 10 Metal Lined”. Loaded, fired or NPE is Ok. Please call Joe Sutphin at 410-529-0792 (6-9 EST)or E-Mail me at
[email protected]. Yes, I still collect flechettes, saboted, and experimental cartridges. [457,w]
Wanted - .25 ACP / 6.35 mm auto pistol cartridges. I collect all headstamps and variations (U.S. and Foreign), boxes (full, partial and empty), advertising and misc. information. Send me a list of what you have. Bob Ruebel, 37752 880th Ave., Olivia, MN 56277. 320-522-0230
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Wanted “Tear Gas” Seek vintage tear gas items, primarily US. Seek cartridges larger than .38, (all shot shell calibers thru .410 and up to 37/40 mm). Interested in early “beer can” sized “grenade” canisters as well, “the earlier the better” Lake Erie, Federal, S & W, etc.. Reference material, instructions, packaging, advertising. Also interested in adding to an ever growing collection of “pen gun” launchers & rounds (both tear gas & flare). (buy, sell, trade) Pepper Burruss Cell/desk 920-660-7704, ephotos welcomed,
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WANTED: Wrapped - Metal or PaperMetal-Wrapped early experimental .50-60 caliber, .50-70 caliber, or .56-50 Spencer cartridges by Col. T. J. Treadwell at Frankford Arsenal from 1860 to 1873 (see Metallic Cartridges Manufactured and Tested at the Frankford Arsenal, Philadelphia, PA by Col. T. J. Treadwell or IAA Journal, #453, pgs 8-11). Please call Joe Sutphin at 410-529-0792 (6-9 EST) or Email
[email protected] [457,w] Wanted: Winchester 2-pc boxes, especially M76, Hi-Wall Express, M86 and M73/ 92 calibers. Also early (pre-1900) boxes in Win, Sharps, Colt, M&H and Bullard calibers by other makers. Prefer full of orig rounds. Ray Giles, Box 670894, Dallas, TX 75367-0894. Tel: 214-361-6577. email:
[email protected]. Website: www.rtgammo.com [458,w]
For Sale: E-mail
[email protected] for lists of singles, small lots, and large lots of North American shotshells or send $5.00 (Applied to first order.) to Ron Stadt, 609 S. Terrace Dr., Carbondale, IL 62901. State which brands are of special interest. [455] WANTED: Any type of cartridge made in Romania from any period of time. Also want empty cartridge boxes having Romanian labels or markings. Write to Liviu Stoica, PO Box 5, Calhoun, TN 37309-0005 or
[email protected] [455]
WANTED: 7.62x25 Tokarev/Mauser Cartridges. I collect all lots, dates, variations, boxes, packets, and info. All responses answered. Jon Cohen, 273 Beacon Dr. Phoenixville, PA 19460. 610-933-7318
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WANTED: 50 BMG singles or collections, 223, gyrojets, lockless, folded, caseless, trounds, telescoped, wildcats, Experimental cartridges, flechettes, depleted uranium rounds, and ordnance up to 40mm. Contact Keith Lampear, 23748 Scott Drive, Framington Hills, MI 48336 248-478-7818
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Wanted: 50 Spotter, 40-75 Bullard, 38 Casull, 55 Maynard, 30-357 AET, 9mm FAR, 4.6x30 HK, 224 BOZ, 450 SMC, 457 Wildwest, 414 ET Gates, 7.82SX24 LietnerWise, 10mm Rocky Mtn. Grady Mitchell, PO Box 62, Cookeville, TN 38503-0062. Ph 931-432-5588 email
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W.R.A.Co. Cartridges for Sale: Presenting the Dan Shuey W.R.A.Co. Single cartridge collection. All cartridges are listed with headstamp & primer variations as in the Shuey two volume W.R.A.Co. books. Mike Cobine 2870 Kings Valley Hwy. Dallas, Oregon 97338. 503-623-6718
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* * * Classifieds for the IAA Website - Policy * * * The IAA has developed a website and we are prepared to accept classified ads from members with certain stipulations. You must request that your ad be put on the website (it will not go on the website otherwise) No classified ad will go on the web site unless it is also published in the Journal, but not all Journal ads need appear on the website. Classifieds will be removed from the website after 8 months (or before, if requested) Web site classifieds must include an email address, but NO POSTAL MAIL ADDRESS for security/privacy/legal reasons Text of ad must not be open to negative interpretations. e.g.- “Demented .30-06 collector seeking.....” We reserve the right to reject any ad for any reason. The IAA website address may be found on page 2.
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AAA&A: Original Catalogs , Gun Manuals, Hang Tags, Posters, Signs, Labels, Calendars, Books, Guns, Ammo, Fishing Items & More. Original company literature from over 1,500 companies. We currently have in excess of 50,000 pieces in inventory. Call (716) 434-5928, M-F, 10:00-3:00, EST. Fax (716) 438-9883. Email
[email protected]. Website: www.sportingadvertising.com. Write: 5679 S. Transit Rd. #298, Lockport, NY, 14094. [455]
FREE. Complete directory to the Pete deCoux auctions 1 through 9. Includes prices realized. Email only. Contact John Witzel at
[email protected] [455]
WANTED, any gyrojet item, including cartridges, lancejets, finjets, flares, literature, etc.. Any caliber, any country. Have good gyrojet items for trade. Mel Carpenter, 288 Glenlyon Dr., Orange Park, FL 32073.
[email protected] (904) 272-5070. [455,w]
Military Gun & Ammunition Books by IAA member Anthony G Williams: Assault Rifle: the Development of the Modern Military Rifle and its Ammunition (coauthor Maxim Popenker). This provides a comprehensive account of the development of the military assault rifle and its ammunition from the Second World War to the present day. It is well illustrated and contains much information about experimental cartridges and their performance. All three volumes of the book series Flying Guns: Development of Aircraft Guns, Ammunition and Installations (co-author Emmanuel Gustin) are now available as follows: World War 1: 1914-32, World War 2: 1933-45, The Modern Era: since 1945. All of the volumes are well illustrated and contain much information about the ammunition used in the period as well as details of the weapons, their installations and effectiveness. Rapid Fire: The Development of Automatic Cannon, Heavy Machine Guns and their Ammunition for Armies, Navies and Air Forces Includes scale drawings, basic measurements and ballistic data of 92 cartridges for automatic weapons between 12.7 and 57mm calibre. Also provides data on experimental and comparable cartridges, plus illustrates and describes the guns which fired them and how they were used. Available in hardback or softback. All of these
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books are published by The Crowood Press, The Stable Block, Crowood Lane, Ramsbury, Wiltshire, SN8 2HR, UK. They can be ordered from your local bookseller, online booksellers or the publisher at http:/ /www.crowood.com Tel +44 (0)1672 520320. Fax +44 (0)1672 520280. More details on Tony Williams’ website at: http:/ /www.quarry.nildram.co.uk [455,w]
50 Caliber military cartridge collector buy, sell, or trade. Looking for singles, boxes, collections, etc. of .50 caliber BMG, BAT, Gyrojet, Lockless, Folded, Caseless, Tround, Telescoped etc., including issued rounds, experimentals, and derivatives (.30/ .50, .60/.50, .50/20mm, etc). Send $1.00 for latest Want and Duplicates lists. Finder’s fee paid for tips leading to specimens for my collection. Keith Pagel, 21 Kennedy Dr., Shelby, OH 44875 (419) 347-3235 Email: Keith.R.Pagel@ embarq.com [457,w]
www-ammo-one.com, Single Cartridges, Books, Plastic Ammunition Sleeves, cleaning equipment, We also deactivate to ship World Wide! 1,000s of calibers in stock! Buy, Sell, Trade. Dave @ 207-6427980 [457,w]
Wanted: Imperial Brand shotshells. Purple or red cases with copper primers, all shot sizes and loadings. Also want two-piece Imperial shotshell boxes. Buy or trade. John A. Belton. Box 425, Merrickville, Ontario, Canada K0G 1N0. Tel: 613-926-2469. email
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History of Modern U.S. Military Small Arms Ammunition: From time to time we are asked about the availability of our two volumes. For those interested, listed below are the publisher and book dealer with price for Vol. I (Revised) and Vol. II. Both books are still currently in stock and available as indicated: Vol. I (Revised) from: Thomas Publications, 3245 Fairfield Rd., Gettysburg, PA 17325, (717) 642-6600, price $49.95, if Vol. I (R) is purchased from Thomas Publications the Addendum is included free of charge. If the Addendum is purchased separately the price is: $7.95. S&H charges are $5.00 for the book. Vol. II from The Gun Room Press, 127 Raritan Ave., Highland Park, NJ 08904 (732) 5454344, price $39.95 S&H charges are $5.00. Frank Hackley
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FOR SALE: Cal. 30 Mod 1901, 1903 and 1906 single specimens: 1901 no-hole & 1-hole dummies; 1901 Ball FA 2 03 & FA 4 03; 1903 Dummy FA 2 03; 1903 Ball FA 12 03; FA Rimless-Grooveless barrel proof circa 1907-1911; Arsenal volume test cases (2 variations); M1906 Exper. ball, primer, machine gun, Garand, plate test, salt spray, Salvo, others; M1917, 1918, 1922 AP; M1917 and 1918 Incendiary; also match, special purpose and miscellaneous; about 100 cartridges on 3-page list. I will fax or mail list on request. Larry Duddy, PO Box 666, Atwater, CA 95301. Tel: 209-3587400, Fax 209-358-7456 [455]
Sporting Collectibles by Ward’s Auctions Inc. We hold four auctions each year. They are held on the third Friday of February, May, August & November. To sign up & order your catalog, just contact: Ward’s Auctions Inc. 1808 37th Ave. NW Salem, OR 97304. Phone: 503-566-8800 Fax: 503-566-8596.
[email protected] www.wardscollectibles.com [455]
Books for Sale: Suydam: The American Cartridge, Suydam: US Cartridges and Their Handguns, US Army: Small Caliber Ammunition Guide, Vol. 1 & 2, Datig: Cartridges for Collectors, Vols 1, 2, & 3, Hogg: The Cartridge Guide, White and Munhall: Pistol and Revolver Cartridges, Vols 1 & 2 in one book, Buttweiler: American Rimfire Boxes, Hoyem: History and Development of Small Arms Ammunition, Vol 1 w/cartridge value guide & Vol 2, Barber: The Rimfire Cartridge 1857-1984, Marcot: Spencer Rimfire Cartridges softcover w/letter from James Sones on identification procedures, Elias: Article on Henry Cartridges from Texas Cartridge Journal 1989, Cartridges of the World, Eds. 1, 3, 4 & 5. Dick Fawcett, 1449 Valaria Dr. Highland, CA 92346 909-241-0738 (days),
[email protected] [457] Follow my Ammunition Auctions on the internet at www.auctionarms.com/search/ SellerSearch.cfm?UserNum=25476.0 Thank you, Dick Fraser. [455,w]
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Witt’s End - by Otto Witt
Smith & Wesson and Smith & Wesson - Fiocchi headstamp checklist
Additional Jarrett headstamps (see Issue #448)
Quality Cartridge Co. headstamps (see issue #445)
CCI Christmas 2006 headstamp
Independance Brand ammunition by CBC (see issues #s 440 & 441)
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From Gene Walker, Idaho. This 1927 “Rustless” issue is hard to complete. Missing is the green Long Rifle
Above: See Will Reuter’s letter page 49 Right: See Dave Birkin’s letter page 48 Above & below: See article on Czech shotgun slugs - page 40
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